You obviously have toddlers.How many sleeps?
You obviously have toddlers.How many sleeps?
I'm not just annoyed on our behalf, but they only voted in one of the two Rutgers 5-star guys? That's just odd.
I was okay with them not having any Illinois players on there since most are newcomers. But then they put Dylan Harper on there and that sentiment went out the window.Barnhizer is pretty good…. We have a brand new team, bunch of young guys.. makes sense. Not a big deal imo.
He looks like he should play for Notre Dame.
With graduate studies in Ann ArborHe looks like he should play for Notre Dame.
Coleman when you read this i hope you go troll that guy.
Pretty sure most of those players would not be on a preseason list in any other major conference. Is the B1G that bad this year?!?!?!
I call BS.. Smith will be average without Eddy...
But if Underwood were to ever leave –– and the set up at Illinois was the same then as it currently is in comparison to other college basketball programs –– the coaching candidate list for this job would be much different this time around, with even more appealing choices than in past hiring cycles.
The point of the article can be summed up as, "Illinois is only a top 20 program because of NIL." A backhanded compliment at best. Saying we weren't a top 20 program prior to NIL is quantifiably false.
I also got that Illinois was bad because they refused to cheat at all, unlike everyone else.The point of the article can be summed up as, "Illinois is only a top 20 program because of NIL." A backhanded compliment at best. Saying we weren't a top 20 program prior to NIL is quantifiably false.
His only argument for us being outside the top 20 from 1905 to 2021 seems to be that after Weber was let go, the job wasn't coveted by high profile coaches - a wildly myopic way to assess the situation.
Smith will be good but not B1G player of year good.I call BS.. Smith will be average without Eddy...
Smith will be good but not B1G player of year good.
Can't disagree as B1G is wide open. Based on last year stats, I can see those that follow and rank players/teams giving Smith the preseason nod - IMO Smith averages 13/6/4 for the upcoming season. Similarly I can see not placing any Illinois players on the preseason team. As others have said - the end of season list will look significantly different than the preseason list.I don’t know. He averaged 12/7.5/6 last year in a complementary role to Edey. Maybe he struggles now that Edey won’t suck up so much attention. But now that it’s “his” team, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to think he will put up something like 16/9/5 this year. I don’t see any obvious candidates to average 20+ this year, so if Smith puts up that statline he’s at least in the running. It always seems like someone emerges though. Will see who it is. But given a lack of clear alternatives, I understand why Smith is the preseason POY.
I'm glad a couple other people spoke up. I was happy to read an article that discusses Illinois BB as being in the upper echelon, but that article was BS. I didn't want to be the first to say something negative. I agreed with some of the "perceptions" of the program historically. The malaise we experienced from 2006 through Underwood was the result of 2 events: 1. Gunther gave up trying to hire the best coach after Kruger and Self left and went with the security of Bruce Weber, 2. Mike Thomas was hired as AD, which led to Groce (and Beckman for good measure).I also got that Illinois was bad because they refused to cheat at all, unlike everyone else.
This was the bigger issue. Coaches weren't spurning Illinois as a top job, but they were shying away from an unlikeable AD.I'm glad a couple other people spoke up. I was happy to read an article that discusses Illinois BB as being in the upper echelon, but that article was BS. I didn't want to be the first to say something negative. I agreed with some of the "perceptions" of the program historically. The malaise we experienced from 2006 through Underwood was the result of 2 events: 1. Gunther gave up trying to hire the best coach after Kruger and Self left and went with the security of Bruce Weber, 2. Mike Thomas was hired as AD, which led to Groce (and Beckman for good measure).
Similar to LSU #7 in football, #21 should be reserved for elite big men
No way he averages 9 assists a game... When was the last time a big ten player did that? And without edey sucking in the defense for wide open shooters or easy dump off to edey for quick bucket. No way.I don’t know. He averaged 12/7.5/6 last year in a complementary role to Edey. Maybe he struggles now that Edey won’t suck up so much attention. But now that it’s “his” team, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to think he will put up something like 16/9/5 this year. I don’t see any obvious candidates to average 20+ this year, so if Smith puts up that statline he’s at least in the running. It always seems like someone emerges though. Will see who it is. But given a lack of clear alternatives, I understand why Smith is the preseason POY.