Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (Week of April 5th, 2021)

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skyIdub

Winged Warrior
Yeah, I'd take that mock with a grain of salt after seeing Kofi ahead of Ayo. There are dozens of mock drafts out there, just like there are dozens of bracketologists in February and March.

Someone like Sam Vecenie over at The Athletic is highly respected and actually does in depth analysis of the prospects. He's also pretty well connected to scouts and others around the NBA. As of April 2nd, he has TJD at 55 and Kofi at 87.

I agree, however the question wasn't "have you seen Kofi higher than mid second round on a highly respected in depth mock draft"...it was just "have you seen Kofi higher than mid second round." 😁
 
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pruman91

Paducah, Ky
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I'm here to be entertained and sometimes entertain others......insider info, whether true or made up , entertains me...Also, the only thing it costs us is our time being here, so, how bout we all take a deep breath, relax and enjoy the give and take of opinions, gifs, whatever , and realize we are all of the same cut of cloth here...Illini fanatics, who want every tidbit of info that raises our hopes up for that gratification we all seek in life....

My love of all things Illini, STL Cardinals and STL Blues has comforted me through many of life's heartaches on a personal level....i will continue to come here to find any small item that explains why ............
recruiting is fluid
someone leaves the program
what are the Illini's stats and ranking on kenpom, torvik, etc
etc etc

it's what makes up someone being a fan.......If I don't like a posters comments or slant of thinking I either gloss over their posts or put them on ignore...
Simple stuff .....Taking anything here as a reason to get upset is not healthy or wise......

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Big Jack

Decatur
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I'm here to be entertained and sometimes entertain others......insider info, whether true or made up , entertains me...Also, the only thing it costs us is our time being here, so, how bout we all take a deep breath, relax and enjoy the give and take of opinions, gifs, whatever , and realize we are all of the same cut of cloth here...Illini fanatics, who want every tidbit of info that raises our hopes up for that gratification we all seek in life....

My love of all things Illini, STL Cardinals and STL Blues has comforted me through many of life's heartaches on a personal level....i will continue to come here to find any small item that explains why ............
recruiting is fluid
someone leaves the program
what are the Illini's stats and ranking on kenpom, torvik, etc
etc etc

it's what makes up someone being a fan.......If I don't like a posters comments or slant of thinking I either gloss over their posts or put them on ignore...
Simple stuff .....Taking anything here as a reason to get upset is not healthy or wise......

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Anybody complaining about the "insiders" on this board needs to have a tough conversation with themselves. You're an Illini hoops fan that is STILL following this recruiting thread after a decade plus of this same thing happening over and over and over and over. A normal response to pain is to try avoid it in the future, yet you keep coming back for more. What does that make you? A masochist. A masochist for Illinois basketball recruiting. Time to accept the truth. I have, and I'm okay with it.
It’s early. Break just ending and Dan hasn’t met with everyone to have those difficult conversations yet about how their posts fit into the long term future
 
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A true Insider is someone who knows FOR SURE that x, y, or z IS going to happen. And it happens the way they said. Otherwise, one is a Speculator.

So, there are no issues with any (so-defined) Insider. Some may have issues with Speculators. But Speculators are probably not intending to deliberately mislead. What they are trying to do is to predict Human Behavior. And no one has yet come out with a fool-proof way of doing that.

And with the Transfer Portal now as active as it is, this shows that the young player himself made a decision to (initially) join a program that for whatever reason did not turn out the way he wanted. So, in that sense, the player is a Speculator as well. He tried to predict his own future but that future was not the one he predicted.

So that ought to make all this as clear as mud.
 
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A true Insider is someone who knows FOR SURE that x, y, or z IS going to happen. And it happens the way they said. Otherwise, one is a Speculator.

So, there are no issues with any (so-defined) Insider. Some may have issues with Speculators. But Speculators are probably not intending to deliberately mislead. What they are trying to do is to predict Human Behavior. And no one has yet come out with a fool-proof way of doing that.

And with the Transfer Portal now as active as it is, this shows that the young player himself made a decision to (initially) join a program that for whatever reason did not turn out the way he wanted. So, in that sense, the player is a Speculator as well. He tried to predict his own future but that future was not the one he predicted.

So that ought to make all this as clear as mud.
Are you an attorney? Info sounds 100% accurate and 100% useless.
 
#83      

mhuml32

Cincinnati, OH
For anyone looking for Luke Goode video, just watched this on Youtube:


Love the stroke. Will need to speed up his release in college but his body control in awkward lift positions is promising once he cleans up some of his footwork at UI. Add some strength and this guy could be a fantastic shooter.
 
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Joel Goodson

respect my decision™
A true Insider is someone who knows FOR SURE that x, y, or z IS going to happen.

Not my definition of true insider. To me, a true insider knows what's going on (inner workings) far more than the average fan. And that knowledge varies in each recruitment. Can they be wrong? Of course. Recruiting is (a very non-viscous) fluid, lol.

I'm just glad that we have some who are willing to share some of their knowledge with the rest of us.

FWIW, I agree with your other points. Go, Illini!
 
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Not sure if this is the right thread (/s):

I was told 2022 SF Brandon Miller at Cane Ridge is going UK or G League, and more than likely G League. I’m not an insider. This is not info directly from him or anyone in his camp.
 
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illiniCA

DC Area
Not sure if this is the right thread (/s):

I was told 2022 SF Brandon Miller at Cane Ridge is going UK or G League, and more than likely G League. I’m not an insider. This is not info directly from him or anyone in his camp.

Is there a limit to the number of "elite prospect" spots on Ignite or does the the G League plan on create more teams as more head to the G League?
 
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Is there a limit to the number of "elite prospect" spots on Ignite or does the the G League plan on create more teams as more head to the G League?
That’s a good question and I couldnt give you an accurate answer. From what I understand right now, there are only limited spots on Team Ignite (due to wanting to have veteran players on the team as mentors). Not sure if this program is going to expand again like it did the last couple years.

The kids who are good enough should 100% go. Jalen Green made $700k this year and with incentives could make $1 mil. Sure, there are a ton of people getting paid out of that and he’s maybe only pocketing $400k, but that’s a nice year. Plus, he has a guaranteed scholarship to Arizona State (they are the NBA’s partner with the G League pathways program).
 
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As far as insider stuff goes, not even the staff can be “for sure” many times.

First time this was really obvious to me was Like Zeller. I think we thought for sure he was coming to Illinois. Then he goes to ND.

things change. Assistant coaches get hired, etc.
 
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He’s got a good stroke, but anyone else underwhelmed by this pursuit. Was really hoping we could ride the buzz of the BTT and #1 seed + 2 all Americans to higher caliber players than this.

But if the vision is to surround curbelo with a bunch of 6’6-6’8 shooters I suppose he fits.

EDIT: Looks like JG beat me to it. Glad you seem to think we are after bigger fish.
 
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Not my definition of true insider. To me, a true insider knows what's going on (inner workings) far more than the average fan. And that knowledge varies in each recruitment. Can they be wrong? Of course. Recruiting is (a very non-viscous) fluid, lol.

I'm just glad that we have some who are willing to share some of their knowledge with the rest of us.

FWIW, I agree with your other points. Go, Illini!
Ya, anyone who is in the practices, sees recruits when they’re on campus and maybe over hears conversation here and there would be an insider in my books. Those people may or may not be able to extrapolate the information they pick up into meaningful recruiting predictions but I’d still eat up all of that gossip.
 
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For the record, I love the "insiders." Really appreciate everything they bring. Hell, this place would be nothing without their info.
Yes, even if it is all made up and always wrong.
 
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Tacomallini

Washington State
Ya, anyone who is in the practices, sees recruits when they’re on campus and maybe over hears conversation here and there would be an insider in my books. Those people may or may not be able to extrapolate the information they pick up into meaningful recruiting predictions but I’d still eat up all of that gossip.
Some of my favorite conversations in the Army on deployment started with “Heard any good rumors lately?” Reminds me a bit of recruiting Loyalty.
 
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