Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (Week of April 5th, 2021)
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35 - 40% of the numbers in graphic have been grad transfers! Leaving roughly 400 a year, much less than 1200. No idea how many are grad transfers this year. I'm sure some are.
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I think that is precisely the reason he is willing to spend a couple winters in Illinois. It sounds as though he hasn't really developed a go to move in the low post, and fouls at an unsustainable rate. The kid has a NBA frame. If he learns to play defense with his feet and not his hands he could be really good.
RichBradIllini
- Peoria
You said kids entering the portal...not transfers. You're showing a graph of the number of transfers which is an ave. of roughly 500 kids per year. Way more than 200 in previous portals you reported
The number is going to be dramatically higher this year either way. Dramatically.
Don't let facts get in the way of a good bit of outrage. If you haven't learned that "numbers" don't matter unless they fit someone's preconceived narrative after the last 13 months then I question where you've been.
Our it's ready to pop.
TC what’s your feeling with Franklin? When is Podz supposed to decide?
Franklin is doing his due diligence. Indiana is after some guards in the big ten portal as well.
Disagree with this. Payne’s advanced numbers, especially on D, are pretty impressive on a per minute basis. He now has Curbelo to operate with, which could allow him to take off.
Including a former Illini.
mhuml32
- Cincinnati, OH
illiniCA
- DC Area
IMO our ceiling is higher with Kofi and our floor is waaaaay higher.
Joel Goodson
- respect my decision™
Bold prediction.
Anything's possible, and there's no question that Antigua is excellent with big men. Still, Payne is who he is after two years of high-major D1 coaching and experience. Even assuming improvement going from SO to JR and under Antigua's tutelage, if he ends up starting at the five, we're going to see a big decrease in production after Kofi. Kofi averaged almost 18 and 10 this season. He was pretty much an automatic double-double machine in the paint. It's no insult to Payne to suggest that he's not going to do that. Payne coming off the bench in relief of Kofi sounds great. Payne starting instead of Kofi, not so much.
I don’t disagree with this, I just don’t think next year “hinges” on his return. I think we make the tournament next year regardless of whether Kofi comes back (assuming we don’t completely whiff in the transfer market). If he returns, I think we are ranked top 15 all season. That’s how big of a leap I expect from him and Curbelo.
illiniCA
- DC Area
IMO our ceiling is higher with Kofi and our floor is waaaaay higher.
haha my intent was affirm OPs stance that the offseason hinges on Kofi by stating what i feel i obvious
illiniCA
- DC Area
Just depends on what how you interpret "hinges" I guess.
illininutt
- Tinley Park
Another Day...another offer. Staff working overtime! Question: When we offer sooooo many...do they tell the recruit that right now you are #3 in line for 2022 small forward. Or...we want you...and we are offering...but you can't commit until a year or so. Otherwise...why so many offers from a #1 seed and no commits?
I didn’t realize the only comparison was to Kofi. Clearly there’s a drop off. But I think Payne in 2 years could be a big man that ranks in the top half of league starters.
illininutt
- Tinley Park
I kinda like this kid. No offer yet. Do these bigs that we are recruiting/or have as commits have a BK/McD/Wendy's in their town? Do these kids now days ever eat? Skinny!
If Payne is coming in as a backup, then there's not so much reason to compare him to Kofi. If he's being positioned as Kofi's replacement, it's a pretty obvious comparison. We don't know yet. And Payne can, and should, improve here, but he's no wild card. He's a known quantity.
You don't know that we've lost anything with Simeon, and you also don't know that we'd be done in Chicago. You make bold statements and assumptions. I think BU's reputation is solid, and he didn't ask AM to leave. You're a bit hasty and over dramatic with your parents comment. If he said he'd made a mistake, and BU, was good with it and if the team is okay with it, then that's all that matters.
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