Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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Let's not let facts get in the way of a good narrative now...
They had 4 scholarships available for 2021. The lowest ranked recruit of the 4 is #55 (per 247) nationally. (#1, #20, #32, #55)

They have also played in two of the last 4 National Championship games. I'm not sure what all you have to do to be a "blue blood", but if the Zags aren't it, they are doing a really good impression.
 
#279      
St Paul, MN
Duke, UK, and UNC all had better classes in 2019 and 2020. Pulling in 1 top 20 recruit every year doesn't make you a blue blood, pulling in 3 every year does.
Based on their results from the last two seasons as compared to Gonzaga, that's a pretty damning statement on their player development, no?
 
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Duke, UK, and UNC all had better classes in 2019 and 2020. Pulling in 1 top 20 recruit every year doesn't make you a blue blood, pulling in 3 every year does.
Does making 6 Sweet 16's, 4 Elite 8's, 2 final 4's, and 2 National Titles (although no wins) since 2015 make someone a blueblood on top of recruiting at a very high level? Not even trying to be smart. Genuinely curious. For the "historical" thinkers that still consider UCLA and Indiana blue bloods of course Gonzaga wouldn't be. But if they aren't considered one over the last decade than I don't know who is
 
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Does making 6 Sweet 16's, 4 Elite 8's, 2 final 4's, and 2 National Titles (although no wins) since 2015 make someone a blueblood on top of recruiting at a very high level? Not even trying to be smart. Genuinely curious. For the "historical" thinkers that still consider UCLA and Indiana blue bloods of course Gonzaga wouldn't be. But if they aren't considered one over the last decade than I don't know who is
They've had their 3 best recruiting cycles ever the past 3 seasons, 2 of those they were behind the big 3 blue bloods anyway. Before that they were barely cracking the top 100. We just have a much different idea of what a "blue blood" is, because I think recruiting is 50% regardless of performance on the court. Gonzaga has thrived over the last decade by being old and staying old, now they are coupling that with pulling in top 10 recruits, very well could start matching Kentucky in the coming years, but I'd still doubt that.
 
#282      
They've had their 3 best recruiting cycles ever the past 3 seasons, 2 of those they were behind the big 3 blue bloods anyway. Before that they were barely cracking the top 100. We just have a much different idea of what a "blue blood" is, because I think recruiting is 50% regardless of performance on the court. Gonzaga has thrived over the last decade by being old and staying old, now they are coupling that with pulling in top 10 recruits, very well could start matching Kentucky in the coming years, but I'd still doubt that.
Fair enough. Moral of the story: sucks Huff got a Zaga offer. Lmao
 
#284      
Duke, UK, and UNC all had better classes in 2019 and 2020. Pulling in 1 top 20 recruit every year doesn't make you a blue blood, pulling in 3 every year does.
I checked 247's recruiting database and by your definition nobody recruits like a blueblood. Duke and UK each pulled in 2 top 20 recruits in 2021. Nobody else, except Michigan (also 2), pulled in more than 1. UK and UNC pulled in 2 top 20 guys in 2020. Duke pulled in 1. The last time UK pulled in 3 top 20 guys was 2018. The last time Duke did it was was also 2018. The last time Kansas did was 2013. The last time UNC did it was 2006.

If getting 3 top 20 recruits every recruiting cycle is what you think "recruiting like a blueblood" means, then yeah, Gonzaga doesn't do that. Nobody does that. Duke and UK get closest to what you're describing, but if you look at UNC and Kansas, their classes look a whole lot like Gonzaga's recent classes.
 
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I checked 247's recruiting database and by your definition nobody recruits like a blueblood. Duke and UK each pulled in 2 top 20 recruits in 2021. Nobody else, except Michigan (also 2), pulled in more than 1. UK and UNC pulled in 2 top 20 guys in 2020. Duke pulled in 1. The last time UK pulled in 3 top 20 guys was 2018. The last time Duke did it was was also 2018. The last time Kansas did was 2013. The last time UNC did it was 2006.

If getting 3 top 20 recruits every recruiting cycle is what you think "recruiting like a blueblood" means, then yeah, Gonzaga doesn't do that. Nobody does that. Duke and UK get closest to what you're describing, but if you look at UNC and Kansas, their classes look a whole lot like Gonzaga's recent classes.
Before going pro became a thing UK and Duke were pulling in more than 3 a class. But it's more about consistency, Villanova is probably closer to that than Gonzaga.
 
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Not trying to downplay him as a recruit because he is very solid but B1G ready is a bit of a stretch. He needs to put one ~20lbs, which Fletch should have no problem doing as he looks to have the frame to carry it.
I was 5’10” 145lb. when I started my sr. year of HS. Two years later 6’ 165lb without lifting anything heavier than 12 oz. I’m guessing it shouldn’t be too hard for him to add some mass with the professional training available.
 
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Two years later 6’ 165lb without lifting anything heavier than 12 oz.
A mug of beer is heavier than that...not to mention a pitcher.
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I was 5’10” 145lb. when I started my sr. year of HS. Two years later 6’ 165lb without lifting anything heavier than 12 oz. I’m guessing it shouldn’t be too hard for him to add some mass with the professional training available.
I had a similar experience my first two years of college. Although I hope his diet will be more diverse than the 4 food groups of my college diet. (Cheeseburgers, Pizza, Beer, and random items from a vending machine)
 
#290      
Based on their results from the last two seasons as compared to Gonzaga, that's a pretty damning statement on their player development, no?
I'd wager to the kids they're recruiting they are Bluebloods. I also think they are recruiting the pieces they need based on ability, effort, position of need, very well. Doesn't hurt being in the title games recently either.
 
#291      
I'd wager to the kids they're recruiting they are Bluebloods. I also think they are recruiting the pieces they need based on ability, effort, position of need, very well. Doesn't hurt being in the title games recently either.
I think Dan needs to start an "Is Gonzaga a Blueblood?" thread.
 
#292      
I was 5’10” 145lb. when I started my sr. year of HS. Two years later 6’ 165lb without lifting anything heavier than 12 oz. I’m guessing it shouldn’t be too hard for him to add some mass with the professional training available.
A mug of beer is heavier than that...not to mention a pitcher.
Announces Last Call GIF
By 12 oz. I meant cans of Coca-Cola seeing as I was not yet old enough to legally consume beer 😇
 
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08/10 Updated 2022 rankings (Casey slips to #29)
 
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