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<blockquote data-quote="Second and Chalmers" data-source="post: 1409519" data-attributes="member: 527609"><p>Obelix, just to name one, is an extremely smart and erudite and intellectually rigorous Illini fan that has very elegantly expressed the exact viewpoint that I'm talking about.</p><p></p><p>Illinois fans on the internet generally, and Loyalty specifically, is obsessed with the Game of Thrones of basketball recruiting in a way that other similarly situated fanbases are not. Fan communities have distinct traits, and that is ours. Indiana is somewhat similar and Kentucky has always been this way, probably even exceeding us, but you go to internet sites for schools like Purdue or Michigan or Michigan State and their focus is much more on the current team and how to use their current players and what they can do to improve.</p><p></p><p>I don't think the Loyalty Hivemind is some slack-jawed yokel that's too dumb to ever see things clearly. I wish you would stop accusing me of that. I think the Loyalty Hivemind has had an understandable, perfectly rational reaction to the collapse of our program and especially the media narrative through which that unfolded, but like Obelix they are using real facts and cogent analysis to tell a story that misses a big part of the picture. And I say that as someone who in 2009 was as much a part of the Loyalty Hivemind as anybody (though mostly on a different board back then). I was telling the same partial story too.</p><p></p><p>I've changed the way I think about winning in college sports in response to new information and more careful study over the years. I'm still probably very wrong, but it's fun to argue about and there's no need to take disagreements personally. Isn't this why we're here?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Second and Chalmers, post: 1409519, member: 527609"] Obelix, just to name one, is an extremely smart and erudite and intellectually rigorous Illini fan that has very elegantly expressed the exact viewpoint that I'm talking about. Illinois fans on the internet generally, and Loyalty specifically, is obsessed with the Game of Thrones of basketball recruiting in a way that other similarly situated fanbases are not. Fan communities have distinct traits, and that is ours. Indiana is somewhat similar and Kentucky has always been this way, probably even exceeding us, but you go to internet sites for schools like Purdue or Michigan or Michigan State and their focus is much more on the current team and how to use their current players and what they can do to improve. I don't think the Loyalty Hivemind is some slack-jawed yokel that's too dumb to ever see things clearly. I wish you would stop accusing me of that. I think the Loyalty Hivemind has had an understandable, perfectly rational reaction to the collapse of our program and especially the media narrative through which that unfolded, but like Obelix they are using real facts and cogent analysis to tell a story that misses a big part of the picture. And I say that as someone who in 2009 was as much a part of the Loyalty Hivemind as anybody (though mostly on a different board back then). I was telling the same partial story too. I've changed the way I think about winning in college sports in response to new information and more careful study over the years. I'm still probably very wrong, but it's fun to argue about and there's no need to take disagreements personally. Isn't this why we're here? [/QUOTE]
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