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<blockquote data-quote="Deleted member 747671" data-source="post: 1576682"><p>I don't really disagree with what you say in general here, but I have a very hard time believing things actually got better and the facility would not have happened without Lovie. We were falling so far behind it wasn't even funny. Josh was going to get that done regardless of who the coach was. Did it help to bring in a splashy name like Lovie? Sure, but I just can't believe that we would not have the new facility without him. Unless I'm misremembering, Beckman's teams were relatively well behaved and attended class too. Let's not forget Lovie had his share of guys getting into trouble and being kicked off the team. Win-loss got measurably worse. Overall talent may have increased very slightly but I'd put it on par with what he took over. I don't think you can really point to anything that is substantially better unless you truly believe that we'd still be in our 1990s era facilities without him.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Deleted member 747671, post: 1576682"] I don't really disagree with what you say in general here, but I have a very hard time believing things actually got better and the facility would not have happened without Lovie. We were falling so far behind it wasn't even funny. Josh was going to get that done regardless of who the coach was. Did it help to bring in a splashy name like Lovie? Sure, but I just can't believe that we would not have the new facility without him. Unless I'm misremembering, Beckman's teams were relatively well behaved and attended class too. Let's not forget Lovie had his share of guys getting into trouble and being kicked off the team. Win-loss got measurably worse. Overall talent may have increased very slightly but I'd put it on par with what he took over. I don't think you can really point to anything that is substantially better unless you truly believe that we'd still be in our 1990s era facilities without him. [/QUOTE]
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