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<blockquote data-quote="alaskaillini" data-source="post: 1438517" data-attributes="member: 531679"><p>Ohio State paid more than double what we did to get Holtman, so comparing to Mack isn't conclusive. Any discussion of the contract now is hindsight. I don't remember a lot of crying when JW went out and poached Underwood, and got what was generally thought of as the second best hire of the year in college basketball.</p><p></p><p>It really doesn't matter what the buyout is because BU is not getting fired this year. The big buyout is not just to insure no one poaches your coach, but also to insure the coach that he is going to get a fair shot (3-4 years) at a turn around. No one expects to be paying that buyout before about year 4. And before everyone decides without any evidence that we are not going to win any conference games, that the locker room is a mess, and that all our players are going to transfer next year, we just might want to let the year play itself out and see where we are at. Last year's recruiting class was pretty good and at this time we only had one player. They still have time.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I think you should stick with a coach until you have reason to believe that the new guy you can reasonably get will almost certainly be an upgrade. With the incoming class he had, I was unsure we should give up on Groce (sometimes it takes a while to learn a job - i.e. Henson). But I had to credit JW with not dithering and getting a guy with some gravitas while the getting was good. Had we waited, we would have been competing with a lot of other schools. It may be that BU does not pan out, but I really think that (1) we don't know one way or the other yet, and (2) his hiring process was well done from JW's standpoint.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="alaskaillini, post: 1438517, member: 531679"] Ohio State paid more than double what we did to get Holtman, so comparing to Mack isn't conclusive. Any discussion of the contract now is hindsight. I don't remember a lot of crying when JW went out and poached Underwood, and got what was generally thought of as the second best hire of the year in college basketball. It really doesn't matter what the buyout is because BU is not getting fired this year. The big buyout is not just to insure no one poaches your coach, but also to insure the coach that he is going to get a fair shot (3-4 years) at a turn around. No one expects to be paying that buyout before about year 4. And before everyone decides without any evidence that we are not going to win any conference games, that the locker room is a mess, and that all our players are going to transfer next year, we just might want to let the year play itself out and see where we are at. Last year's recruiting class was pretty good and at this time we only had one player. They still have time. Personally, I think you should stick with a coach until you have reason to believe that the new guy you can reasonably get will almost certainly be an upgrade. With the incoming class he had, I was unsure we should give up on Groce (sometimes it takes a while to learn a job - i.e. Henson). But I had to credit JW with not dithering and getting a guy with some gravitas while the getting was good. Had we waited, we would have been competing with a lot of other schools. It may be that BU does not pan out, but I really think that (1) we don't know one way or the other yet, and (2) his hiring process was well done from JW's standpoint. [/QUOTE]
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