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News-Gazette: Brad Underwood cleared in DIA Investigation into his coaching
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<blockquote data-quote="Calvin" data-source="post: 1463356" data-attributes="member: 4069"><p>Fair enough. I won't quote everything, but a rebuttal on certain points:</p><p></p><p>I wouldn't agree that all accusations give incentive to lie. It really depends on how the accusations are handled that provide incentives. Many people keep accusations to themselves despite the personal cost -it's not uncommon.</p><p></p><p>If you're saying the likelihood of false accusations doesn't affect how you conduct the investigation, we can agree to disagree. I think having a filter, and escalation point, make a lot of sense, which is what the University choose to do, smartly, IMHO. It will be interesting if an accuser steps forward and takes issue with it, but sometimes an accuser knows they're on crappy footing, and will back off, which is better for all involved if they were part of another agenda. I understand why you would not want it handled this way, though.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I went so far as to repeat myself on this point to make sure it was understood, so this is restating my point with your own take on it. I hope we can agree that "abusing" athletes is a bad thing. You're going to get different ideas on what constitute "abuse", so there's that, of course.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's a way of saying they were personally involved, but not endorsing every detail. They had the chance to ask questions, and ensure they could stand by the results, absent some unusual revelation. It's common practice in the legal and PR world to leave a statement like that with some wiggle room. From what they know, the investigation was generally transparent and fair to all sides. They would need some sort of an excuse/reason to walk back that statement.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is IMO cherry-picking. Everyone knows turnover has gone through the roof in college bball, and it's going to spike with a coaching change. In addition, we have a 180 degree change going from a "player's coach" to a "coaches coach". It was more dramatic than expected, so your point is not only factually true, but also has validity. However, it's by no means a smoking gun when looked at in context. Furthermore, these accusations didn't come out until the transfers took place (correct me if anyone knows that to be false) which makes the accusations convenient, if not suspicious. </p><p></p><p>Finally, doing this as an independent investigation brings up a variety of issues, risks, and costs, that are bad for the University. The University gained valuable insight and has greater certainty about how a show-cause dismissal would play out, and what direction they should go under the circumstances. </p><p></p><p><strong>In cold harsh terms</strong>, the University has invested an enormous amount in Underwood, and if he's on good footing, it would be disastrous to undercut him. There would be many aspects to the fallout, none of them good. There's good reason for the University to be cautious on this incident, and going through an internal vetting of the accusations first.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Calvin, post: 1463356, member: 4069"] Fair enough. I won't quote everything, but a rebuttal on certain points: I wouldn't agree that all accusations give incentive to lie. It really depends on how the accusations are handled that provide incentives. Many people keep accusations to themselves despite the personal cost -it's not uncommon. If you're saying the likelihood of false accusations doesn't affect how you conduct the investigation, we can agree to disagree. I think having a filter, and escalation point, make a lot of sense, which is what the University choose to do, smartly, IMHO. It will be interesting if an accuser steps forward and takes issue with it, but sometimes an accuser knows they're on crappy footing, and will back off, which is better for all involved if they were part of another agenda. I understand why you would not want it handled this way, though. I went so far as to repeat myself on this point to make sure it was understood, so this is restating my point with your own take on it. I hope we can agree that "abusing" athletes is a bad thing. You're going to get different ideas on what constitute "abuse", so there's that, of course. It's a way of saying they were personally involved, but not endorsing every detail. They had the chance to ask questions, and ensure they could stand by the results, absent some unusual revelation. It's common practice in the legal and PR world to leave a statement like that with some wiggle room. From what they know, the investigation was generally transparent and fair to all sides. They would need some sort of an excuse/reason to walk back that statement. This is IMO cherry-picking. Everyone knows turnover has gone through the roof in college bball, and it's going to spike with a coaching change. In addition, we have a 180 degree change going from a "player's coach" to a "coaches coach". It was more dramatic than expected, so your point is not only factually true, but also has validity. However, it's by no means a smoking gun when looked at in context. Furthermore, these accusations didn't come out until the transfers took place (correct me if anyone knows that to be false) which makes the accusations convenient, if not suspicious. Finally, doing this as an independent investigation brings up a variety of issues, risks, and costs, that are bad for the University. The University gained valuable insight and has greater certainty about how a show-cause dismissal would play out, and what direction they should go under the circumstances. [B]In cold harsh terms[/B], the University has invested an enormous amount in Underwood, and if he's on good footing, it would be disastrous to undercut him. There would be many aspects to the fallout, none of them good. There's good reason for the University to be cautious on this incident, and going through an internal vetting of the accusations first. [/QUOTE]
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