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Penn State 74, Illinois 52 POSTGAME
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<blockquote data-quote="haasi" data-source="post: 1374314" data-attributes="member: 9034"><p>Let's break this down. Underwood came in in the spring and "recruited" Frazier, Smith, and Williams - all of whom Groce had recruited and two of whom had already committed. He got Smith to sign. Then, desperately needing bigs, he got us Eboigbodin and Vesel. Because we were so desperate for guard production with Hill and others leaving, he recruited Alstork to come in as a fifth year transfer. </p><p></p><p></p><p>On the whole, the six recruits he brought in were all some combination of (a) Groce recruits; (b) freshmen; and/or (c) desperation plays because of how bare the cupboard was -- some of which appear promising (Ebo) and some of which have been busts (Alstork). No one can argue that Underwood has disappointed this year, but to say that the roster is on him is a joke. The only thing you could blame him for is not keeping Tilmon (who would have been very useful) and losing JCL (and maybe DJW) to transfer. But transfers and decommits will happen when a new coach comes in. In any event, you can't credibly argue that the roster is on Underwood. You can argue that for the 2018 class and beyond - that's where the concerns are. If he doesn't get a nice class surrounding Ayo, we can start blaming him for roster makeup.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="haasi, post: 1374314, member: 9034"] Let's break this down. Underwood came in in the spring and "recruited" Frazier, Smith, and Williams - all of whom Groce had recruited and two of whom had already committed. He got Smith to sign. Then, desperately needing bigs, he got us Eboigbodin and Vesel. Because we were so desperate for guard production with Hill and others leaving, he recruited Alstork to come in as a fifth year transfer. On the whole, the six recruits he brought in were all some combination of (a) Groce recruits; (b) freshmen; and/or (c) desperation plays because of how bare the cupboard was -- some of which appear promising (Ebo) and some of which have been busts (Alstork). No one can argue that Underwood has disappointed this year, but to say that the roster is on him is a joke. The only thing you could blame him for is not keeping Tilmon (who would have been very useful) and losing JCL (and maybe DJW) to transfer. But transfers and decommits will happen when a new coach comes in. In any event, you can't credibly argue that the roster is on Underwood. You can argue that for the 2018 class and beyond - that's where the concerns are. If he doesn't get a nice class surrounding Ayo, we can start blaming him for roster makeup. [/QUOTE]
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