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<blockquote data-quote="danielb927" data-source="post: 1815219" data-attributes="member: 3372"><p>It's hard to game out every possible scenario, but it looks to me like we would win, or be heavily favored to win:</p><p>- A H2H tie with anyone but Purdue</p><p>- Any 3-team tiebreaker except Minnesota-Purdue</p><p>- Any 4+ team tiebreaker</p><p></p><p>This is a working post to figure out the scenarios. Will condense into a tighter summary later on.</p><p></p><p>1. The first tiebreaker is always head-to-head results. Here's a table for the teams in contention to tie at 3 or 4 losses:</p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td></td><td>Illinois</td><td>Iowa</td><td>Minnesota</td><td>Purdue</td><td>Wisconsin</td></tr><tr><td>Illinois</td><td>X</td><td>W (+1)</td><td>W (+1)</td><td>L (-1)</td><td>W (+1)</td></tr><tr><td>Iowa</td><td>L (-1)</td><td>X</td><td><em>This week</em></td><td>W (+1)</td><td>W (+1)</td></tr><tr><td>Minnesota</td><td>L (-1)</td><td><em>This week</em></td><td>X</td><td>L (+1)</td><td><em>Next week</em></td></tr><tr><td>Purdue</td><td>W (+1)</td><td>L (-1)</td><td>W (+1)</td><td>X</td><td>L (-1)</td></tr><tr><td>Wisconsin</td><td>L (-1)</td><td>L (-1)</td><td><em>Next week</em></td><td>W (+1)</td><td>X</td></tr></table><p></p><p>The possible 3-way ties with Illinois are:</p><p>- Purdue/Minnesota</p><p>--- We are 1-1 -> <strong>Purdue wins at 0-2</strong></p><p>- Purdue/Iowa</p><p>--- We are 1-1 -> <strong>Both teams advance to next tiebreaker</strong></p><p>- 2 non-Purdue teams</p><p>--- We are 2-0 -> <strong>Illini win tiebreaker</strong></p><p>Note - a 3-way tie with Purdue & Wisconsin is not possible</p><p></p><p>The possible 4-way ties with Illinois are:</p><p>- Iowa/Minnesota/Purdue - this can happen in 2 ways</p><p>--- Scenario 1 - MN lost to Iowa (beat Wisconsin)</p><p>----- MN eliminated at 0-3 -> <strong>Illinois/Iowa/Purdue to next tiebreaker</strong></p><p>--- Scenario 2 - MN beat Iowa (lost to Wisconsin)</p><p>----- MN & Iowa are 1-2-> <strong>Purdue wins tiebreaker by H2H over Iowa</strong></p><p>- Iowa/Purdue/Wisconsin</p><p>--- Purdue & Wisconsin are 1-2 -> <strong>Illini win tiebreaker by H2H over Iowa</strong></p><p>- Minnesota/Purdue/Wisconsin</p><p>--- MN eliminated at 0-3 -> <strong>Illinois/Purdue/Wisconsin to next tiebreaker</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>There is only one possible 5-way tie:</p><p>- We would be 4-1 -> <strong>Illini win tiebreaker</strong></p><p></p><p>2. Record vs. division</p><p>At this point, it is a 3-way tie with Purdue and either Iowa OR Wisconsin. At that point it comes down to the Northwestern game.</p><p></p><p>Beat Northwestern and we are 5-1. Only Iowa could also be at 5-1 -> <strong>Illini win by H2H over Iowa</strong></p><p></p><p>Lose to Northwestern and we are 4-2. This means the tie is at 5-4 overall, which means:</p><p>- Iowa is 4-2 in the West (if included)</p><p>- Wisconsin is 4-2 in the West (if included)</p><p>- Purdue is either 4-2 or 3-3.</p><p></p><p>If Purdue is 3-3 (beat IU, lost to Northwestern) -> <strong>Illini win by H2H over Iowa or Wisconsin</strong></p><p></p><p>If Purdue is 4-2 (much more likely) -> <strong>No result, go to next tiebreaker</strong></p><p></p><p>3. Comparison to next-highest ranked teams</p><p>At this point, it is still a 3-way tie with Purdue and either Iowa OR Wisconsin. We also know all teams tied are 5-4 (otherwise we would have won in the last step). There are a lot of scenarios after that.</p><p></p><p>- Purdue/Iowa, originally 3-way tie</p><p>--- Minnesota and Nebraska are both 4-5. Iowa out by loss to Nebraska. -> <strong>Purdue win by H2H over Illini</strong></p><p></p><p>- Purdue/Iowa, originally 4-way tie</p><p>--- Winner of Nebraska-Wisconsin is 4-5</p><p>----- If Nebraska, Iowa out by loss to Nebraska -> <strong>Purdue win by H2H over Illini</strong></p><p>----- If Wisconsin, Purdue out by loss to Wisconsin -> <strong>Illini win by H2H over Iowa</strong></p><p></p><p>- Purdue/Wisconsin, originally 4-way tie</p><p>--- Iowa is 4-5, Nebraska 3-6</p><p>----- Purdue out by loss to Iowa -> <strong>Illini win by H2H over Wisconsin</strong></p><p></p><p>I <em>think </em>that covers everything... anyone have that meme of Charlie with the red string ready for me?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="danielb927, post: 1815219, member: 3372"] It's hard to game out every possible scenario, but it looks to me like we would win, or be heavily favored to win: - A H2H tie with anyone but Purdue - Any 3-team tiebreaker except Minnesota-Purdue - Any 4+ team tiebreaker This is a working post to figure out the scenarios. Will condense into a tighter summary later on. 1. The first tiebreaker is always head-to-head results. Here's a table for the teams in contention to tie at 3 or 4 losses: [TABLE] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]Illinois[/TD] [TD]Iowa[/TD] [TD]Minnesota[/TD] [TD]Purdue[/TD] [TD]Wisconsin[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Illinois[/TD] [TD]X[/TD] [TD]W (+1)[/TD] [TD]W (+1)[/TD] [TD]L (-1)[/TD] [TD]W (+1)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Iowa[/TD] [TD]L (-1)[/TD] [TD]X[/TD] [TD][I]This week[/I][/TD] [TD]W (+1)[/TD] [TD]W (+1)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Minnesota[/TD] [TD]L (-1)[/TD] [TD][I]This week[/I][/TD] [TD]X[/TD] [TD]L (+1)[/TD] [TD][I]Next week[/I][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Purdue[/TD] [TD]W (+1)[/TD] [TD]L (-1)[/TD] [TD]W (+1)[/TD] [TD]X[/TD] [TD]L (-1)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Wisconsin[/TD] [TD]L (-1)[/TD] [TD]L (-1)[/TD] [TD][I]Next week[/I][/TD] [TD]W (+1)[/TD] [TD]X[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] The possible 3-way ties with Illinois are: - Purdue/Minnesota --- We are 1-1 -> [B]Purdue wins at 0-2[/B] - Purdue/Iowa --- We are 1-1 -> [B]Both teams advance to next tiebreaker[/B] - 2 non-Purdue teams --- We are 2-0 -> [B]Illini win tiebreaker[/B] Note - a 3-way tie with Purdue & Wisconsin is not possible The possible 4-way ties with Illinois are: - Iowa/Minnesota/Purdue - this can happen in 2 ways --- Scenario 1 - MN lost to Iowa (beat Wisconsin) ----- MN eliminated at 0-3 -> [B]Illinois/Iowa/Purdue to next tiebreaker[/B] --- Scenario 2 - MN beat Iowa (lost to Wisconsin) ----- MN & Iowa are 1-2-> [B]Purdue wins tiebreaker by H2H over Iowa[/B] - Iowa/Purdue/Wisconsin --- Purdue & Wisconsin are 1-2 -> [B]Illini win tiebreaker by H2H over Iowa[/B] - Minnesota/Purdue/Wisconsin --- MN eliminated at 0-3 -> [B]Illinois/Purdue/Wisconsin to next tiebreaker[/B] There is only one possible 5-way tie: - We would be 4-1 -> [B]Illini win tiebreaker[/B] 2. Record vs. division At this point, it is a 3-way tie with Purdue and either Iowa OR Wisconsin. At that point it comes down to the Northwestern game. Beat Northwestern and we are 5-1. Only Iowa could also be at 5-1 -> [B]Illini win by H2H over Iowa[/B] Lose to Northwestern and we are 4-2. This means the tie is at 5-4 overall, which means: - Iowa is 4-2 in the West (if included) - Wisconsin is 4-2 in the West (if included) - Purdue is either 4-2 or 3-3. If Purdue is 3-3 (beat IU, lost to Northwestern) -> [B]Illini win by H2H over Iowa or Wisconsin[/B] If Purdue is 4-2 (much more likely) -> [B]No result, go to next tiebreaker[/B] 3. Comparison to next-highest ranked teams At this point, it is still a 3-way tie with Purdue and either Iowa OR Wisconsin. We also know all teams tied are 5-4 (otherwise we would have won in the last step). There are a lot of scenarios after that. - Purdue/Iowa, originally 3-way tie --- Minnesota and Nebraska are both 4-5. Iowa out by loss to Nebraska. -> [B]Purdue win by H2H over Illini[/B] - Purdue/Iowa, originally 4-way tie --- Winner of Nebraska-Wisconsin is 4-5 ----- If Nebraska, Iowa out by loss to Nebraska -> [B]Purdue win by H2H over Illini[/B] ----- If Wisconsin, Purdue out by loss to Wisconsin -> [B]Illini win by H2H over Iowa[/B] - Purdue/Wisconsin, originally 4-way tie --- Iowa is 4-5, Nebraska 3-6 ----- Purdue out by loss to Iowa -> [B]Illini win by H2H over Wisconsin[/B] I [I]think [/I]that covers everything... anyone have that meme of Charlie with the red string ready for me? [/QUOTE]
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