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<blockquote data-quote="ilphotog" data-source="post: 1195338" data-attributes="member: 5372"><p>Since some have made the statement about the SFC " not getting its monies worth" (maybe your right ?) I'll try to put some of it perspective. Note these are just my thoughts of what I've seen etc. I do not have knowledge of how much many of the things cost.</p><p></p><p>The current est. cost is $170 million. After it's all paid off with interest it'll obviously be more. I'm going to guess that everything is included in the cost.</p><p></p><p>1. Architects - cant even imagine the cost of this.</p><p>2. Labor - With this being and Union job throughout I would think the labor cost for this job is substantial. Most days there were close to 200 people working on site 5-6 days a week. Hours ranging from 8-12 per day and several days/weeks of two shifts at 8-10 hours each.</p><p> Not sure of per hour rates but I would guess on the low end laborers ($25-$30 per hour) and the high end electricians, plumbers, eq. operators ($50 and up per hour)</p><p></p><p>3. Demolition and clean up</p><p></p><p>4. Concrete - I was told a new average size driveway (2 cars wide) cost about $2500. To see how much concrete has been poured is staggering, I realize the public will never see a lot of it. All the concrete around the outside of the building is new, all of the mechanical area's and several area's on the lower concourse. Inside the arena the floor and the former A-section as well as the suite area's.</p><p></p><p>5. Nearly 15,000 new seats. Hundreds of new chairs, tables and all the things going into the clubs. All new light fixtures throughout the building, all new doors throughout including entrance doors, office doors and 4 each for every portal. </p><p></p><p>6. All new glass panels</p><p></p><p>7. All new wire-ring all throughout, along with all new plumbing and new fixtures. Thousands of new cinder blocks (walls), tons of drywall and carpet. All new office furniture tables, chairs, desks, cabinets .</p><p></p><p>8. HVAC- The size of this equipment is amazing, compared to the old 50+ year old system, its hard to compare. The cost of this stuff and its utilities are in the millions.</p><p></p><p> I probably forgot some things, but hopefully this will at least help explain some of the cost, I totally understand those who judge it by walking in and seeing it during a game. But so much that has been done is out of the public view.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ilphotog, post: 1195338, member: 5372"] Since some have made the statement about the SFC " not getting its monies worth" (maybe your right ?) I'll try to put some of it perspective. Note these are just my thoughts of what I've seen etc. I do not have knowledge of how much many of the things cost. The current est. cost is $170 million. After it's all paid off with interest it'll obviously be more. I'm going to guess that everything is included in the cost. 1. Architects - cant even imagine the cost of this. 2. Labor - With this being and Union job throughout I would think the labor cost for this job is substantial. Most days there were close to 200 people working on site 5-6 days a week. Hours ranging from 8-12 per day and several days/weeks of two shifts at 8-10 hours each. Not sure of per hour rates but I would guess on the low end laborers ($25-$30 per hour) and the high end electricians, plumbers, eq. operators ($50 and up per hour) 3. Demolition and clean up 4. Concrete - I was told a new average size driveway (2 cars wide) cost about $2500. To see how much concrete has been poured is staggering, I realize the public will never see a lot of it. All the concrete around the outside of the building is new, all of the mechanical area's and several area's on the lower concourse. Inside the arena the floor and the former A-section as well as the suite area's. 5. Nearly 15,000 new seats. Hundreds of new chairs, tables and all the things going into the clubs. All new light fixtures throughout the building, all new doors throughout including entrance doors, office doors and 4 each for every portal. 6. All new glass panels 7. All new wire-ring all throughout, along with all new plumbing and new fixtures. Thousands of new cinder blocks (walls), tons of drywall and carpet. All new office furniture tables, chairs, desks, cabinets . 8. HVAC- The size of this equipment is amazing, compared to the old 50+ year old system, its hard to compare. The cost of this stuff and its utilities are in the millions. I probably forgot some things, but hopefully this will at least help explain some of the cost, I totally understand those who judge it by walking in and seeing it during a game. But so much that has been done is out of the public view. [/QUOTE]
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