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<blockquote data-quote="Ransom Stoddard" data-source="post: 1954289" data-attributes="member: 10336"><p>I'm very concerned that you believe people who don't agree with you are bitter and paranoid. It is not unreasonable to think that those who wanted the Chief retired also want "Fighting Illini" retired, and it is also not unreasonable to think that the acceptance of a specifically named mascot (i.e. "The Kingfisher") could lead to a push to rename the athletic teams to "The Kingfishers".</p><p></p><p>It is also not unreasonable to accept the retirement of the Chief and not want to be represented by a bird that very few (in my poorly conducted research) have ever actually seen in real life.</p><p></p><p>To be even more clear, for many people CFB is about traditions. Illinois, even without the Chief, is <strong>heavy </strong>with tradition--the Block I (move them back to the East Main ASAP), the Marching Illini, having the first Homecoming, singing 'Loyalty' at halftime, etc. Alumni in particular are in touch with and value those traditions, and forcing a new one <em>simply for the sake of doing it</em> rubs a good number of people the wrong way--whether Chief is part of the algebra or not. Whether you think those people are blinkered and self-interested is irrelevant--those people cherish their traditions, and a blue version of Woody Woodpecker isn't part of their traditions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ransom Stoddard, post: 1954289, member: 10336"] I'm very concerned that you believe people who don't agree with you are bitter and paranoid. It is not unreasonable to think that those who wanted the Chief retired also want "Fighting Illini" retired, and it is also not unreasonable to think that the acceptance of a specifically named mascot (i.e. "The Kingfisher") could lead to a push to rename the athletic teams to "The Kingfishers". It is also not unreasonable to accept the retirement of the Chief and not want to be represented by a bird that very few (in my poorly conducted research) have ever actually seen in real life. To be even more clear, for many people CFB is about traditions. Illinois, even without the Chief, is [B]heavy [/B]with tradition--the Block I (move them back to the East Main ASAP), the Marching Illini, having the first Homecoming, singing 'Loyalty' at halftime, etc. Alumni in particular are in touch with and value those traditions, and forcing a new one [I]simply for the sake of doing it[/I] rubs a good number of people the wrong way--whether Chief is part of the algebra or not. Whether you think those people are blinkered and self-interested is irrelevant--those people cherish their traditions, and a blue version of Woody Woodpecker isn't part of their traditions. [/QUOTE]
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