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<blockquote data-quote="1970 John" data-source="post: 1973190" data-attributes="member: 589602"><p>Just a few observations: Regarding no mention of Native Americans in the renaming of The Student, it's simply improbable that it was wholly made up. After all, the editorial explaining the origin of the name is merely the same as Illinois, the latter merely Frenchified. And as much as we know where Illini and Illinois came from, surely the students in the 1870's weren't ignorant. My suspicion is that the author of the editorial didn't want to bring up the Native American reference because it might just be impolitic when the Indian Wars were current events rather than history. </p><p></p><p>But Americans have always had a love/hate relationship with the pre-Columbian residents of the continent. I've said this before, and if you care, you can <a href="https://illiniboard.com/boards/reply/post/73452" target="_blank">read it here.</a></p><p></p><p>That said, I've very much in favor of Florida State joining the B1G. I want to see heads explode when they're exposed to Florida State using the the War Chant (banner at Illinois) and the tomahawk chop (never used at Illinois), and a white kid in Native American garb throwing a flaming spear in the grass of a football stadium. I also wonder what the NCAA would have done about the optics of Chief Osceola at their premier event. And by the way, according to a professor at the University of Michigan, Native imagery causes Native youth to kill themselves. The Seminole tribe is as responsible as anyone else. All in or all out, simple as that. So please, FSU, come on up. I want to see Fishy the Kingfisher call FSU's Chief racist. For the record, Chief Illiniwek was Chief Illiniwek from the beginning, never </p><p>Chief Wampumstompum.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="1970 John, post: 1973190, member: 589602"] Just a few observations: Regarding no mention of Native Americans in the renaming of The Student, it's simply improbable that it was wholly made up. After all, the editorial explaining the origin of the name is merely the same as Illinois, the latter merely Frenchified. And as much as we know where Illini and Illinois came from, surely the students in the 1870's weren't ignorant. My suspicion is that the author of the editorial didn't want to bring up the Native American reference because it might just be impolitic when the Indian Wars were current events rather than history. But Americans have always had a love/hate relationship with the pre-Columbian residents of the continent. I've said this before, and if you care, you can [URL='https://illiniboard.com/boards/reply/post/73452']read it here.[/URL] That said, I've very much in favor of Florida State joining the B1G. I want to see heads explode when they're exposed to Florida State using the the War Chant (banner at Illinois) and the tomahawk chop (never used at Illinois), and a white kid in Native American garb throwing a flaming spear in the grass of a football stadium. I also wonder what the NCAA would have done about the optics of Chief Osceola at their premier event. And by the way, according to a professor at the University of Michigan, Native imagery causes Native youth to kill themselves. The Seminole tribe is as responsible as anyone else. All in or all out, simple as that. So please, FSU, come on up. I want to see Fishy the Kingfisher call FSU's Chief racist. For the record, Chief Illiniwek was Chief Illiniwek from the beginning, never Chief Wampumstompum. [/QUOTE]
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