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War Chant has been retired
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<blockquote data-quote="Rob07" data-source="post: 1326006" data-attributes="member: 57270"><p>You're suggesting that this is a slippery slope and that people on the other side of the debate from you do not care about the facts.</p><p></p><p>I'm suggesting that most people are willing to listen to the facts and there is in fact a very bright line to separate things to keep from things not to keep: when the tradition was created, was it created in reference to the Chief Illiniwek mascot (or "symbol" for the snowflake PC police we have around here)?</p><p></p><p>Fighting Illini name -- nope, predates Chief, reference is to students that served in WWI</p><p>Hail to the Orange -- no reference to Native Americans</p><p>Illinois Loyalty -- official school song from 1906, predates Chief, includes "Oskee Wow Wow" cheer</p><p>Oskee Wow Wow -- official fight song from 1911, sounds like it could be problematic, but historical references indicate that it was used as a cheer at Illinois and other schools with no Native American tie</p><p></p><p>In contrast:</p><p>Chief Illiniwek -- originated 1926</p><p>War Chant -- not clear when originated but definitely post-Chief and a reference to Chief Illiniwek</p><p>March of the Illini -- written specifically for Chief Illiniwek's performances in 1926</p><p>Three-In-One routine -- created specifically for Chief Illiniwek's dance</p><p></p><p>Seems pretty straightforward to me in light of the facts.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rob07, post: 1326006, member: 57270"] You're suggesting that this is a slippery slope and that people on the other side of the debate from you do not care about the facts. I'm suggesting that most people are willing to listen to the facts and there is in fact a very bright line to separate things to keep from things not to keep: when the tradition was created, was it created in reference to the Chief Illiniwek mascot (or "symbol" for the snowflake PC police we have around here)? Fighting Illini name -- nope, predates Chief, reference is to students that served in WWI Hail to the Orange -- no reference to Native Americans Illinois Loyalty -- official school song from 1906, predates Chief, includes "Oskee Wow Wow" cheer Oskee Wow Wow -- official fight song from 1911, sounds like it could be problematic, but historical references indicate that it was used as a cheer at Illinois and other schools with no Native American tie In contrast: Chief Illiniwek -- originated 1926 War Chant -- not clear when originated but definitely post-Chief and a reference to Chief Illiniwek March of the Illini -- written specifically for Chief Illiniwek's performances in 1926 Three-In-One routine -- created specifically for Chief Illiniwek's dance Seems pretty straightforward to me in light of the facts. [/QUOTE]
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