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<blockquote data-quote="The Dave" data-source="post: 1272133" data-attributes="member: 622843"><p>Again, I'm part of the Fire Groce Mafia, but this game was mostly on the players. Groce has made a number of adjustments. He's got TJL playing more, he's cut down on his crazy substitutions (maybe still not ideal, but not as horrible as it has been for the past few year). Those are the things he can affect NOW as a coach (in game).</p><p></p><p>This PARTICULAR game was on the players. They shot poorly and rebounded horribly. Groce can't do anything about that during the game.</p><p></p><p>That being said, a lot of those one-game issues is actually on the long-term coaching. We still don't have a reasonable offense. We apparently don't teach rebounding (good thing Black came in knowing how to do it), we don't play good defense. These are all things a coach should have in place by his 5th year. If he doesn't, he needs to go.</p><p></p><p>Groce's single biggest problem is his ability to coach-up players. Nobody has gotten significantly better under him in the past 5 years. Apparently he doesn't teach and (like Webber before him) he just keeps on sticking with what he thinks should work, regardless of personnel or results.</p><p></p><p>I'm perfectly fine with railing on Groce and wanting him gone, but please argue it as a big picture thing and don't let it blind you to the on-court deficiency of a game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Dave, post: 1272133, member: 622843"] Again, I'm part of the Fire Groce Mafia, but this game was mostly on the players. Groce has made a number of adjustments. He's got TJL playing more, he's cut down on his crazy substitutions (maybe still not ideal, but not as horrible as it has been for the past few year). Those are the things he can affect NOW as a coach (in game). This PARTICULAR game was on the players. They shot poorly and rebounded horribly. Groce can't do anything about that during the game. That being said, a lot of those one-game issues is actually on the long-term coaching. We still don't have a reasonable offense. We apparently don't teach rebounding (good thing Black came in knowing how to do it), we don't play good defense. These are all things a coach should have in place by his 5th year. If he doesn't, he needs to go. Groce's single biggest problem is his ability to coach-up players. Nobody has gotten significantly better under him in the past 5 years. Apparently he doesn't teach and (like Webber before him) he just keeps on sticking with what he thinks should work, regardless of personnel or results. I'm perfectly fine with railing on Groce and wanting him gone, but please argue it as a big picture thing and don't let it blind you to the on-court deficiency of a game. [/QUOTE]
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