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ChiefGritty

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suburbanILLINI said:
Can't believe that Poles couldn't do better. Might as well have kept him as QB2
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Considering the lack of market for him, there was no upside to keeping him, the idea of which would have been that one of the two QB assets would bring back a big return in a trade.

All focus had to be on QB1 going forward.
 
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Big Jack

Big Jack
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I just don't get all of the negativity surrounding Fields. The Bears weren't winning the past 3 seasons because of the surrounding cast IMHO. It has setup to fail... Poor receivers until this past season.. Horrible horrible OL. Terrible OC and play calling. So lets blame Fields ship him off late get nothing in return and now go draft Williams. I am sorry but this just crazy. They might as well start negotiations for him because in 3 years we will have failed him as well. Please for the love of the Bears sell this club to someone who wants to win..
 
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Mr. Tibbs

Mr. Tibbs
southeast DuPage
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IlliniFaninHoosierLand said:
The McCaskeys don't want the Bears to win???
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I'll respond to this question in this way

There are owners that really want to win, that will take chances to do so , and it might impact the profit/loss statement
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there are owners that deep down want to win , but are not willing to do that which is required these days to do so

you can decide where the McCaskeys fall on that spectrum.
 
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IlliniFaninHoosierLand

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Mr. Tibbs said:
I'll respond to this question in this way

There are owners that really want to win, that will take chances to do so , and it might impact the profit/loss statement
and
there are owners that deep down want to win , but are not willing to do that which is required these days to do so

you can decide where the McCaskeys fall on that spectrum.
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I'd assume the McCaskeys fall more on the former than the latter. The whole "McCaskeys are cheap and don't want the Bears to succeed" argument is one of the most overplayed tropes among Bears fans.
 
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Emerson Bigguns

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ChiefGritty said:
Considering the lack of market for him, there was no upside to keeping him, the idea of which would have been that one of the two QB assets would bring back a big return in a trade.

All focus had to be on QB1 going forward.
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The last thing a rookie QB needs is a divided locker room (this would 100% happen…the #1 WR is an huge Fields fan) and questions from the media about his backup. I think DJ will get over it, but it will happen a lot quicker without Fields in the locker room.
The franchise needs to be married to its QB. You can’t tell one they are your everything & still hang out with your ex.
 
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EyeoftheIllini

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IlliniFaninHoosierLand said:
Was probably the best they were going to get at this point, especially with how free agency has shook out. They weren't going to have Fields and Caleb Williams on the roster at the same time.
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Saw some analyst on ESPN say something like when you decide to draft your franchise QB at #1, every decision you make has to be viewed with the lens of will this “move” help the new QB reach his potential. If answer is no, you don’t make it; if answer is maybe, you don’t make it. Having Fields on the roster does not help the development of the franchise QB. Just had to bite the bullet and trade him for much less than you wanted.
 
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ScottHall72

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EyeoftheIllini said:
I wondered about this when I saw he went to Pitts and saw the return. Part of me thinks that is a great thing to do and part of me thinks, it’s a business Poles, you chump.
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Brad Biggs shot down that report this morning on the Score, saying it likely was planted by Fields' people. Poles' mission was to get the best deal he could for Fields and a conditional sixth rounder was it.
 
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illiniwil

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Fields was as bad as his coaching. put a good defense, offensive line and coordinator and decent running game with him
and they'll be successful.
 
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logjam

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EyeoftheIllini said:
I wondered about this when I saw he went to Pitts and saw the return. Part of me thinks that is a great thing to do and part of me thinks, it’s a business Poles, you chump.
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Pittsburgh has got him twice now...but mostly happy so far with Poles...
 
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Illinirog70

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illiniwil said:
Fields was as bad as his coaching. put a good defense, offensive line and coordinator and decent running game with him
and they'll be successful.
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a la playing for Ohio State! doesn't make him good, just successful (as at Ohio State.) The NFL is a different animal, geared for star quarterbacks to excel and make a difference. Fields couldn't. He was a star in HS, a star in College, but couldn't maintain that at the NFL team with the Bears' horrible team where he was expected to bail them out and failed. The next one will fail ,too, if the Bears expect him to be the sole key to success. It's one reason that I could see them trading down from their first two picks....
Williams has many of the same faults as Fields (holding on to the ball, taking off and running early, etc. all in a package that is physically way short of Fields. If they don't solve the offensive line and defense problems, Williams would be just the next first team qb selection sacrificed on the altar of mediocrity....
 
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Grandpa

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So what would you like to see with the #9 pick? WR and DE are the popular choices, but if a fantastic O line guy is there I wouldn't be upset to see him become a Bear. Protecting the QB cannot be overlooked. Extremely important for several reasons including the QB's health, both physical and mental. You want to give a kid a chance to make a play, not put him at the mercy of big, strong, fast angry men who want him on his back.

Trading down, I don't know enough about the depth of the draft and the depth of the Bears.

Looking forward to the draft and the season.
 
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FlyNavy

FlyNavy
Los Angeles
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Grandpa said:
So what would you like to see with the #9 pick? WR and DE are the popular choices, but if a fantastic O line guy is there I wouldn't be upset to see him become a Bear. Protecting the QB cannot be overlooked. Extremely important for several reasons including the QB's health, both physical and mental. You want to give a kid a chance to make a play, not put him at the mercy of big, strong, fast angry men who want him on his back.

Trading down, I don't know enough about the depth of the draft and the depth of the Bears.

Looking forward to the draft and the season.
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My guess is they trade back 7-10 spots, pick up a second rounder, then draft an OT. Seems like that's the biggest need and pick that will have the most immediate impact. That would also allow them to grab a receiver in round 2.

The Bears only have 4 picks in this draft (2 first rounders, a third and a fourth), so I wouldn't be surprised if they trade one of their 2025 second rounders to get an additional pick or two in this draft. They did address their OL depth, but still could use a center for the future. Also need more on the defensive line, though they did start playing really well towards the end of last season.
 
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Illiniaaron

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Geneseo, IL
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Grandpa said:
So what would you like to see with the #9 pick? WR and DE are the popular choices, but if a fantastic O line guy is there I wouldn't be upset to see him become a Bear. Protecting the QB cannot be overlooked. Extremely important for several reasons including the QB's health, both physical and mental. You want to give a kid a chance to make a play, not put him at the mercy of big, strong, fast angry men who want him on his back.

Trading down, I don't know enough about the depth of the draft and the depth of the Bears.

Looking forward to the draft and the season.
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If they keep the pick, I just hope they draft a guy that can be a 6-8 year starter at a high level, don't even care at what position. I understand the thought process of trading down, but I like keeping it simple. Top 10 picks are so valuable, and unless you're bad you don't get them often. Just draft a stud and be happy.
 
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