Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

Status
Not open for further replies.
#251      
Goodman just said on Twitter Ballo's asking price was rumored to be 1.2 mill
Make It Rain Money GIF by yvngswag
Maybe it's just me but these young men are really overreaching. Asking $1M - $1.2M, getting crazy.
 
#252      
I keep wondering which center we are working to get. Haven’t heard anything about that position at all.
A lot of talk that we should be watching for more names to enter the portal. That position could be heavily influenced by who we get at AC to replace Chester.
 
#253      
Just remember, there are a number of players on this list that can decide to come back to college if they don't get the feedback, they want to hear from NBA people.

Players who declare for the draft this year will have to withdraw by the end of the day on May 29 if they wish to retain their NCAA eligibility.

Testing the draft waters:

Note: Some of these players may also be transferring to new schools.

  1. Jonas Aidoo, F/C, Tennessee (junior)
  2. Michael Ajayi, F, Pepperdine (junior)
  3. Adama-Alpha Bal, G/F, Santa Clara (junior)
  4. Mark Armstrong, G, Villanova (sophomore)
  5. Brooks Barnhizer, G/F, Northwestern (junior)
  6. Jalen Blackmon, G, Stetson (junior)
  7. Aaron Bradshaw, C, Kentucky (freshman)
  8. Dion Brown, G, UMBC (sophomore)
  9. Markus Burton, G, Notre Dame (freshman)
  10. Wesley Cardet, G/F, Chicago State (junior)
  11. Cam Christie, G, Minnesota (freshman)
  12. Walter Clayton Jr., G, Florida (junior)
  13. David Coit, G, Northern Illinois (junior)
  14. Cedric Coward, G/F, Eastern Washington (junior)
  15. Malik Dia, F, Belmont (sophomore)
  16. Garwey Dual, G, Providence (freshman)
  17. Frankie Fidler, F, Omaha (junior)
  18. Elijah Fisher, G, DePaul (sophomore)
  19. BJ Freeman, G, Milwaukee (junior)
  20. Kyshawn George, G/F, Miami (FL) (freshman)
  21. Keyshawn Hall, G, George Mason (sophomore)
  22. Dominick Harris, G, Loyola Marymount (junior)
  23. Bronny James, G, USC (freshman)
  24. Kobe Johnson, G/F, USC (junior)
  25. Miles Kelly, G, Georgia Tech (junior)
  26. Xaivian Lee, G, Princeton (sophomore)
  27. Zeke Mayo, G, South Dakota State (junior)
  28. Robert McCray, G, Jacksonville (sophomore)
  29. Scotty Middleton, G/F, Ohio State (freshman)
  30. Baba Miller, F, Florida State (sophomore)
  31. Dillon Mitchell, F, Texas (sophomore)
  32. Jalon Moore, F, Oklahoma (junior)
  33. Great Osobor, F, Utah State (junior)
  34. Noah Reynolds, G, Green Bay (junior)
  35. Jordan Riley, G, Temple (junior)
  36. Hunter Sallis, G, Wake Forest (junior)
  37. Payton Sandfort, G/F, Iowa (junior)
  38. AJ Storr, G/F, Wisconsin (sophomore)
  39. Adou Thiero, G, Kentucky (sophomore)
  40. Saint Thomas, F, Northern Colorado (junior)
  41. Aboubacar Traore, G/F, Long Beach State (junior)
  42. Jaylen Wells, F, Washington State (junior)
  43. JZ Zaher, G, Bowling Green State (sophomore)


https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2024/03/2024-nba-draft-early-entrants-list.html
 
#258      

ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
Count me on the side of not overpaying simply for stability.

But I would argue that it's an oversimplification that players like Epps and Skyy left simply due to money. There were pretty clearly other issues there.
Skyy I will grant you, that was just a marriage that fell apart before the honeymoon and could never have worked.

But I think money is clearly an element of what the broader issue was with Epps, he wanted to be a (perhaps "the") centerpiece and Brad didn't see him that way.

Same with Dainja, same with Hansberry, same with RJ, same with Harris, we didn't think they were good enough to get the bump in role (in a basketball and financial sense, the two being linked hand in hand) that they wanted and could get elsewhere.

Players have not just an easy out but a lucrative one if they aren't central to the plans of the team.

And if we keep scouting the portal well and putting together pieces that work basketball-wise and culturally, it's all gravy, why bother overspending on pieces that don't fit?

As long as it keeps working, keep doing it, I'm not arguing against it whatsoever, in BU I trust, even as I may quibble over our valuation of individual guys. But one terrific season doesn't prove portalmaxxing is the right strategy always and forever, this is still a learning process for us and for our staff.
 
Last edited:
#259      
I can't imagine an Indiana coach screwing up this level of talent


YQInBaw.png
People are freaking out about Ballo going to IU when Woodson just trotted out a front court of Kel’el Ware & Malik Reneau that didn’t do a whole lot for them. I say go ahead and let them go 4 out 1 in. If I’m an IU fan I’m still suspicious of shooting.
 
#262      

ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
Transfer rankings are terrible. I wouldn't put much stock in them. What's most important is how players are fitting within the overall roster and ability to provide an immediate contribution unlike prep recruits.
Ranking portal players is as much of a learning process as recruiting them. They'll get better over time.

I do think the #1 guy in this transfer class so far is pretty clearly Tucker DeVries, no freaking way would I rather have Ballo or Storr.

But it's boring to put a guy just following his dad and not really being "recruited" #1, the same clickbait incentives still apply.
 
#271      
Maybe it's just me but these young men are really overreaching. Asking $1M - $1.2M, getting crazy.
Is it just me, or didn't Tennessee and FSU get in trouble with the NCAA this year for blatantly using NIL $ as a recruiting inducement? How does that square with this crazy auction process we are in now? I wondered about this at the time, but now it just seems silly.
 
#272      
Maybe it's just me but these young men are really overreaching. Asking $1M - $1.2M, getting crazy.
If people are willing to pay them over a million dollars, they're not overreaching, that's just their market value. If anything, as crazy as it sounds, they might not be reaching enough... This is very similar to the player contract friendly NHL pre-salary cap that wound up almost bankrupting the league and leading to multiple lockouts. I suspect it will go the same way here once the endless bucket of money starts running dry and the major conferences collectively start moving towards multiyear deals to protect themselves.
 
#273      
I’m curious what percentage of all D1 players, during the transfer era, have entered the portal at least once. It’s gotta be a very high percentage…
Great question.
Also, at this point, we only have 2 guys returning right? DGL and Ty
 
#275      
Is it just me, or didn't Tennessee and FSU get in trouble with the NCAA this year for blatantly using NIL $ as a recruiting inducement? How does that square with this crazy auction process we are in now? I wondered about this at the time, but now it just seems silly.
So now you can legally do it so long as it's a "collective" that of course isn't in any way taking direction from the school, nudge nudge, wink wink. From my understanding of the legalese, collectives can 100% discuss NIL numbers with potential transfers and recruits for a given location.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.