Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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AirNeazy

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FrankNitty30 said:
Not mad at all. Mostly feel sorry for people. Anytime you shut yourself off from people who say things you don’t like, you lose out on wisdom that they do possess in other areas.

Seems like an ignorant way to go through life.
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Good point, I make sure to invite all the local homeless people and doomsday preachers to stay in my front yard just in case I miss out on any nuggets of wisdom they might happen to let loose.

Freedom of speech =/= freedom of reach.
 
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GrayGhost77

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IndyIllini2 said:
Indiana also has the one of the worst coaches in the country.
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You just made Juwan's day. You really, really did.
 
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JFGsCoffeeMug

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ChiefGritty said:
But whether it's Hansberry or a guy like RJ who didn't really take his opportunity you COULD say "we are betting on you, we are paying you as the player we believe you can be, we are going to forego other options to keep believing and grinding with the kids we recruited".

There are programs attempting some flavor of that. Certainly moreso than us. If the schools that prioritize stability show more player development and more cohesiveness and consistently win games against the portal rent-a-teams everybody is going to start bending toward that strategy.

Early returns kinda look like the opposite though (look at us and Michigan State this year for example). Just spend your NIL dollars on the best new team you can find every year. But it's early.

My point is, it's not IMPOSSIBLE to keep a team together, at least to a significant degree, especially if you're NIL rich like us. We CAN achieve that if we want to. It would just mean foregoing proven quality for potential quality, which BU is understandably unwilling to do based on the data we have.
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Heard a rumor that Juwan did that at Michigan, which is what led to Hunter leaving for Kansas. Juwan told the team what they had in total NIL and divided it amongst their current players. Certainly a fair approach, but not very strategic.
 
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ChiefGritty said:
It's tough how apples-to-oranges it is too.

MJ Rice was ranked right ahead of Domask. Big time recruit, did nothing at Kansas as a freshman (but got the high transfer ranking because of his HS pedigree), transferred to NC State, did nothing for a bit then got hurt and redshirted.

Domask was first team All-B1G, how absurd that he was ranked lower!

But MJ Rice has three years left to play. If he's a solid contributor for three years after Domask has left college basketball, was he more valuable after all? If he's a solid contributor for two years then first team All-ACC his final year he certainly will be more valuable, right?

There aren't really "right" answers to these questions.
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"Right" because you are leaving out the part where we fill Domask's spot for 2 years with a really good player(s). 1 year if he gets the waiver.
 
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ChiefGritty

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DewLou said:
Maybe it's just me but these young men are really overreaching. Asking $1M - $1.2M, getting crazy.
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In the context of the kind of money flowing around the top college programs, that's really not that crazy at all.

I do think you can probably get more value for $1.2 million in the current marketplace than Oumar Ballo though. A lot of guys remain unsigned though, we shall see.
 
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FreshlySqueezed

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I knew that's what you were going to say.

That has no application to this situation. They had nothing of value to say or add.

This a message board that I (and most others) come to for enjoyment and some college basketball news and that's it. If someone is going to hinder that experience here, I appreciate an option to remove them from that equation.

I would contend that your apparent naivete (internet trolling, for example, is a real, legitimate thing) is the ignorant way to go through life.
 
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ChiefGritty said:
It's tough how apples-to-oranges it is too.

MJ Rice was ranked right ahead of Domask. Big time recruit, did nothing at Kansas as a freshman (but got the high transfer ranking because of his HS pedigree), transferred to NC State, did nothing for a bit then got hurt and redshirted.

Domask was first team All-B1G, how absurd that he was ranked lower!

But MJ Rice has three years left to play. If he's a solid contributor for three years after Domask has left college basketball, was he more valuable after all? If he's a solid contributor for two years then first team All-ACC his final year he certainly will be more valuable, right?

There aren't really "right" answers to these questions.
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True, if you're getting a high-risk high-ceiling guy as a cheap bench player, that's good (or even great) value. I was referring more to handing the keys to higher ranked guys who haven't yet played to the level that their asking price (and expected playing time) would suggest.

I'm not sure how much room we have for high ceiling bench players without pushing out one(s) that we already have. Or maybe they're all leaving anyway and we could use a few.
 
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Just want to applaud DGL, must be tough to watch these guys leaving. Someone with the guts to fight and earn their way. No such thing as being recruited over every player gets a chance to prove his value. Hope he becomes a lights out 3 point guy. Don't prove me wrong young man, you got it!
 
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