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Put me firmly in the Ty Rodgers fan club, but I think we can agree. That being said, if he develops a jump shot he could make himself a TON of money when he leaves college. He has the work ethic, and the motivation, going to be exciting to see what he does.Love Ty, but I think we can rule that out.
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Love Ty, but I think we can rule that out.
I guess I just kinda don't understand the skepticism that our only returning starter (from a team where he was the only young player with a major role, and now he's not a young player anymore), would continue to be a starter.Put me firmly in the Ty Rodgers fan club, but I think we can agree.
The sweet spot is being able to credibly threaten the defense with midrange shots so they have to guard against that and can't overload against 3's and layups, while in fact taking as few of those shots as possible.Statistically, this is absolutely true, but I think we underestimate the value of players with a reliable midrange jumper. As the game tightens up and defenses key in on stopping shots at the rim and 3s, sometimes a good midrange shot is the best "clean" shot one can get. You see this happen in the NBA playoffs, where midrange aficionados become relatively more valuable when the games matter most (example). Domask was the guy generating our best offense against UConn (our only offense really), and his game is mostly pull up/step back/turnaround jumpers. Ayo made a killing for 3 years with a deadly midrange game; how many of his game winners/crunch time buckets were midrange shots? (don't have a number but it was a lot -- just watch his highlight videos)
All in all, you're right about the stats and there's a reason the game has trended towards the shot chart on the right, but I think people sometimes draw too straight a line from the stats to 'midrange = bad', while the most competitive basketball games still show us that it has a lot of value. To the larger point about Ty Rodgers shot, I agree that him developing a midrange likely doesn't change much, since he's never going to be automatic like Domask/Ayo were. Better to have 1-2 guys capable of being midrange assasins surrounded by true long-range shooters, much like our team build this year. If Ty could shoot even 28-30% from 3, he'd be a different player, but we don't even know what he'd shoot from distance since he doesn't even look at the basket. That, to me, is the biggest problem and I'm a bit skeptical that an offseason of heavy practice will alleviate that in-game mental barrier.
Statistically, this is absolutely true, but I think we underestimate the value of players with a reliable midrange jumper. As the game tightens up and defenses key in on stopping shots at the rim and 3s, sometimes a good midrange shot is the best "clean" shot one can get. You see this happen in the NBA playoffs, where midrange aficionados become relatively more valuable when the games matter most (example). Domask was the guy generating our best offense against UConn (our only offense really), and his game is mostly pull up/step back/turnaround jumpers. Ayo made a killing for 3 years with a deadly midrange game; how many of his game winners/crunch time buckets were midrange shots? (don't have a number but it was a lot -- just watch his highlight videos)A mid range jumper is an inefficient shot even if it's pretty reliable, does very little for floor spacing, and isn't really easier to learn and develop than a 3 point shot.
All the talk about our elite KenPom offensive efficiency last year tends to focus on our very good players, which is justified, but it would be a mistake not to understand that our overall shot diet being extremely analytics friendly was the reason that was able to happen.
To draw out the implication, even if Tre White and Ty Rodgers are outstanding playing a game which flows from elbow jumpers, that is an inherently inefficient way to play basketball and the statistics (and our success level) will reflect that.
We were a Moneyball team last year, in a way I don't think the fanbase has really digested.
The way Brad is piecing this roster together… That 2025-2026 team should be absolutely loaded… Should be preseason top 5… But then again it’s impossible to predict who will be on that roster…I know it is way off, but I'm looking forward to seeing Kylan and Jeremiah on the court together. Deron and Dee part II? Maybe?
For perspective, I think Goode was the first Indiana recruit in over a decade when he committed. I could be wrong on this, but i vaguely remember that being a storyline.Have we ever had more Indiana kids than Illinois? This year may be a first.
Our list seems stuffed to the gills with guys like this, true bigs who would be undersized as centers. Any insight on the staff's thinking there? Is Kaluma and Humrichous a functional frontcourt?
Good rebounder. 3 pt % has improved every year, though overall FG% is a little low (probably because he took a fair number of 3pt shots). How is his defense? Feels like we need a good defensive stopper or two.
Our list seems stuffed to the gills with guys like this, true bigs who would be undersized as centers. Any insight on the staff's thinking there? Is Kaluma and Humrichous a functional frontcourt?
The PNR ballhandler thing is bunk, though he will put the ball on the floor which makes his sniping that much deadlier.I've been under the impression that Humrichous is a big/long 3 similar to Knecht or Matt Mayer. Maybe I'm wrong on that? He'd been touted as a top 97% PnR ball handler.
he might be a bit more versatile offensively but he's not athletic or quick enough to guard many 3s. I'd expect him to start at and mostly play as a 4.I've been under the impression that Humrichous is a big/long 3 similar to Knecht or Matt Mayer. Maybe I'm wrong on that? He'd been touted as a top 97% PnR ball handler.
in those blank spaces I see opportunity. Effective mid range jumper can be deadly, especially with ability to drive. Defender would have to pick which one he wants to get beat on. Let him take the shot and hope he misses, or let him go by and hope help comes across.A mid range jumper is an inefficient shot even if it's pretty reliable, does very little for floor spacing, and isn't really easier to learn and develop than a 3 point shot.
All the talk about our elite KenPom offensive efficiency last year tends to focus on our very good players, which is justified, but it would be a mistake not to understand that our overall shot diet being extremely analytics friendly was the reason that was able to happen.
To draw out the implication, even if Tre White and Ty Rodgers are outstanding playing a game which flows from elbow jumpers, that is an inherently inefficient way to play basketball and the statistics (and our success level) will reflect that.
We were a Moneyball team last year, in a way I don't think the fanbase has really digested.
Right. Offensively he could pass as a 3, but I think he'd get roasted on defense if asked to guard opposing 3s. I could see something where we play Ty as our "4" on offense but he guards opposing 3s on the other end, while Humrichous has roles flipped in the other direction.The PNR ballhandler thing is bunk, though he will put the ball on the floor which makes his sniping that much deadlier.
I really don't fancy his chances guarding wings though. And he's really big and long, it's a different sort of body than Mayer or especially Knecht.
Good points here, and you hit on this in your post, but I'll try to sum up as it relates to Ty, and then drop out on this topic.Statistically, this is absolutely true, but I think we underestimate the value of players with a reliable midrange jumper. As the game tightens up and defenses key in on stopping shots at the rim and 3s, sometimes a good midrange shot is the best "clean" shot one can get. You see this happen in the NBA playoffs, where midrange aficionados become relatively more valuable when the games matter most (example). Domask was the guy generating our best offense against UConn (our only offense really), and his game is mostly pull up/step back/turnaround jumpers. Ayo made a killing for 3 years with a deadly midrange game; how many of his game winners/crunch time buckets were midrange shots? (don't have a number but it was a lot -- just watch his highlight videos)
All in all, you're right about the stats and there's a reason the game has trended towards the shot chart on the right, but I think people sometimes draw too straight a line from the stats to 'midrange = bad', while the most competitive basketball games still show us that it has a lot of value. To the larger point about Ty Rodgers shot, I agree that him developing a midrange likely doesn't change much, since he's never going to be automatic like Domask/Ayo were. Better to have 1-2 guys capable of being midrange assasins surrounded by true long-range shooters, much like our team build this year. If Ty could shoot even 28-30% from 3, he'd be a different player, but we don't even know what he'd shoot from distance since he doesn't even look at the basket. That, to me, is the biggest problem and I'm a bit skeptical that an offseason of heavy practice will alleviate that in-game mental barrier.