Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
Big Z is Zvonimir Ivisic. Played for Kentucky last year and is following Cal to Arkansas.

His twin brother is Tomislav Ivisic. 7-foot Croatian. Soft touch, can pass and shoot.
He's playing actual productive minutes for a pro team with grown men in a league stronger than college basketball, so that would be a pretty exciting prospect.

Not sure why BU would go to Belgrade to meet with a Croatian player who plays for a team in Montenegro, but who knows.

My other question though, there are some vagaries in how European youth vs. senior teams work in terms of payment, but is Tomislav not a professional player at this point and ineligible for the NCAA? Kind of a ridiculous question in the modern era but those rules still apply.

Zvonimir had played for the senior team as well before coming over, but on a very limited basis.

Given the connection with Antigua this does make some sense.
 
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Loyalillini10

Urbana, IL
He's playing actual productive minutes for a pro team with grown men in a league stronger than college basketball, so that would be a pretty exciting prospect.

Not sure why BU would go to Belgrade to meet with a Croatian player who plays for a team in Montenegro, but who knows.

My other question though, there are some vagaries in how European youth vs. senior teams work in terms of payment, but is Tomislav not a professional player at this point and ineligible for the NCAA? Kind of a ridiculous question in the modern era but those rules still apply.

Zvonimir had played for the senior team as well before coming over, but on a very limited basis.

Given the connection with Antigua this does make some sense.
I read somewhere earlier that Tomislav was there when BU was in Belgrade.
 
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Would anyone happen to have any broad timeline estimate on when us plebs might hypothetically hear more concrete info on any potential, ah, overseas kid closings?

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He's playing actual productive minutes for a pro team with grown men in a league stronger than college basketball, so that would be a pretty exciting prospect.

Not sure why BU would go to Belgrade to meet with a Croatian player who plays for a team in Montenegro, but who knows.

My other question though, there are some vagaries in how European youth vs. senior teams work in terms of payment, but is Tomislav not a professional player at this point and ineligible for the NCAA? Kind of a ridiculous question in the modern era but those rules still apply.

Zvonimir had played for the senior team as well before coming over, but on a very limited basis.

Given the connection with Antigua this does make some sense.
Probably also meeting with a Serbian player. And tomislav’s team was playing in Serbia last week
 
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skyIdub

Winged Warrior
Wait.....BigZ is the Lithuanian Ilgauskas. Is this not the BigZ we're referring too??
 
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I love efficient players, and this guy has been very efficient. Granted, the competition in the BIG is higher. Totally sold on the pick-up.
I also love players who can force the action (Ayo, TSJ) and get to the line, but those are hard to come by.
I also love great passers/facilitators. There wasn't a singular player on the roster last season that fit that type, but the passing overall was there. Great coaching combined with mature team-first players.
 
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robertgoulet

IL Board Resident Crooner
Austin, TX
I think there's also a misconception about how much you make being a pro overseas. Unless you're on one of the main clubs you're not making a heck of a lot. Not like he'd be turning down millions to come here for a scholarship and free school.
 
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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
the insane bellyaching (i.e We're going to be in the B1G basement, won't even make the NIT, we're not capitalizing on winning the conference, we're on a downward trajectory) from people (I remember your posts acutely, you had one of the bigger meltdowns I've seen on the board in awhile) wasn't fair to the staff
I said none of the things you listed so you may be confusing me with someone else. I was definitely upset, though I don't get nearly as upset about this kind of thing as I used to. Dunigan and Humphrey to Oregon, now that was a meltdown.

What I thought and said was that we had a wonderfully talented and experienced and deep roster and we'd misplayed our hand and left ourselves fatally flawed and incapable of playing offense in a fluent way. That last piece was wrong, it was analytically incorrect. I thought there was a hard and low ceiling on our offense that wasn't there.

The replies to that notion from posters at the time was that it was fine and Ty Rodgers was going to thrive at point guard because he's a great passer. That was also wrong! There was some notion that Justin Harmon might fill in there. Wrong!

Domask as a PG was not anybody's consideration (there was one guy who linked a summer post where he suggested it, shoutout to him), but that was the key to everything, probably BETTER than getting RayJ, and organically over the course of the season our staff unearthed that.

I'm just fundamentally uninterested in the like mystical value of faith and positivity. I want to know how the machine works, that's what's interesting to me, that's why I'm here.

I get it, the discourse of being a college sports fan is always centrally, at bottom "is the coach good?". Running on a scale from Literal Deity In Human Form to Must Be Fired Today.

I'm a BU guy, unwaveringly so since the Covid season (with last offseason no exception), and if we blow it over the next few weeks, I will say we're going to be terrible next year, I will be right, and I will STILL be a BU guy while the rest of you are tracking flights from Cincinnati. I take the long view. We are in the right hands. In the meantime I am just trying to think through how next year's team is going to play.
 
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Call it a self-serving take if you want, but I think it's the truth: to forgive or brush away the roster construction failures of last summer is to underrate the amazing coaching job of the following season. They go hand in hand.

BU recruited his way into a straightjacket and handcuffs at the bottom of a lake and coached his way out of it. An extraordinary performance of finding a way to make talented but ill-fitting pieces into a humming machine.

Let's make it easier this time!
Only in Grittyworld . . . 😉
 
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So the dream scenario I can think of is: Kalk, Coleman, star wing, and a kid from Europe with great potential if developed properly. That's it right?
Where would this rank preseason? Def. top 10 imo...
 
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