Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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Kasparas
Not sure how schooled he is defensively, but anybody that athletic can be taught to play great defense.
Agree 99% with this statement....but must add if they want to learn to play defense. With all the talent this roster will or may end up with, wanting to defend like a banshee will likely decide the level of minutes played.
 
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Sure there is. But they play at mid-majors or major conference teams with smaller NIL budgets and then transfer to the big boys after a year or two.
During the Cuonzo Martin years at Missouri State, a kid transferred in from Boston College after his frosh season. It was indeed quite fascinating to see this kid, listed at 6'9', develop into an all MVC caliber player who likely could hold his own in the B1G as a senior when MSU won the Valley title, their only one ever. In his first season I had my doubts he would ever be a plus player, but watching the steps up in his game on a monthly basis was quite captivating for me.
 
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someone ii GIF
 
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Every time I read Kasparus, I think Nojus Indrusaitus. Is there really that much difference?
 
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blackdog

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Kasparas

If we actually have a realistic shot at this guy, then we have the chance of getting a future All B1G caliber guard. Quick release on his shot, great handles and all around skills, really quick first step, and decent athleticism. Not sure how schooled he is defensively, but anybody that athletic can be taught to play great defense.

Half those highlights are picking pockets and it seems like he plays with a lot of tenacity. Those types of guys have games that translate well going up levels.
 
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I think we have a huge hole at SG right now. Tre White is a 3/4 and Jake Davis is a 3/2 that likely isn't ready for significant minutes. Our guards right now are Boswell and DGL. That's it.
I see the lineup right now as Boswell, Ty, Tre, Hum, and Ivisic. Ty can guard a 2 is surrounded by shooters. Sure they are looking for a SG but don’t think it as a black hole.
 
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Will he stick around to develop?

The way college basketball is shaking out, if I was counseling a kid, I'd tell him if you're not going to be in the rotation as a Fr at a P6 school, go to a mid-major.

There's really no point in sitting on the bench at a P6 school. Someone is going to breakout at a mid-major during the year, and there's a good chance your coach is going to be looking at that guy, instead of you sitting on the bench developing.
IMO, the point to riding pine for a year or two at a place like Illinois is to take advantage of the facilities, coaching, relationships, etc., all of which are probably all better than at Mercer, Evansville, etc.

I'm not convinced that in every case, or even in most cases, that playing time at a small school is better for development than practicing against the likes of TSJ, CH, MD, etc.
 
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I see the lineup right now as Boswell, Ty, Tre, Hum, and Ivisic. Ty can guard a 2 is surrounded by shooters. Sure they are looking for a SG but don’t think it as a black hole.
If this is our starting 5 I'm going to church daily & praying that Ty's seeing a shooting coach, a sports therapist, & 10k shots daily.

Whatever it takes for him to get confidence outside of 8 ft, b/c that is not a top quarter big 10 team if he doesn't.
 
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IMO, the point to riding pine for a year or two at a place like Illinois is to take advantage of the facilities, coaching, relationships, etc., all of which are probably all better than at Mercer, Evansville, etc.

I'm not convinced that in every case, or even in most cases, that playing time at a small school is better for development than practicing against the likes of TSJ, CH, MD, etc.
Everyone is going to develop differently. I think being the focus of the other team & relied on as 'the guy' has developmental value you won't get in practice.

We saw that with Podz and it will be an interesting thing with Ty this year to see if he takes the next step without that pressure.
 
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Putting Ty and Tre in the same offensive category?
I'm not sure what "the same offensive category" means. Neither of them are threats from beyond the ark. This means their combined presence on the floor for us would enable two of our opponent's defensive players to clog the paint and prevent our other players from getting points in the paint.
 
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I see the lineup right now as Boswell, Ty, Tre, Hum, and Ivisic. Ty can guard a 2 is surrounded by shooters. Sure they are looking for a SG but don’t think it as a black hole.
Ty may be able to guard a 2, but he's certainly not a 2 on offense and neither is Tre.
 
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He seems to be our main target at the moment. If he doesn't work out in the next week or so...

how much of an option is getting a commitment from Will Riley and him reclassing...? He's the other "int prospect" that's been brought up here...
 
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Will he stick around to develop?

The way college basketball is shaking out, if I was counseling a kid, I'd tell him if you're not going to be in the rotation as a Fr at a P6 school, go to a mid-major.

There's really no point in sitting on the bench at a P6 school. Someone is going to breakout at a mid-major during the year, and there's a good chance your coach is going to be looking at that guy, instead of you sitting on the bench developing.
Fair enough, tho I will point out 1 year of redshirting at Illinois includes Body by Fletch, and also, the coach at the P6 school can see your development every day in practice.

If you develop, you stay and play. If you dont, you get recruited over. I could be wrong, but I dont think developmental prospects are completely gone. The system will level out at some point. And rather quickly I believe. I mean Illinois is already bringing in transfers with multiple years of playing time left. If development was done at P6, we would just bring in a new round of seniors every year.

Thats my very uniformed opinion anyway.
 
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Fair enough, tho I will point out 1 year of redshirting at Illinois includes Body by Fletch, and also, the coach at the P6 school can see your development every day in practice.

If you develop, you stay and play. If you dont, you get recruited over. I could be wrong, but I dont think developmental prospects are completely gone. The system will level out at some point. And rather quickly I believe. I mean Illinois is already bringing in transfers with multiple years of playing time left. If development was done at P6, we would just bring in a new round of seniors every year.

Thats my very uniformed opinion anyway.
Per usual, definitions aren't really clear. What's developmental?

So one problem is that you can develop on a P6 and still get looked over because you aren't getting the PT. Seems like this was the case with Podz.

If we're talking projects, I just don't see the advantage for the kid of practicing against the best and getting Fletched vs. putting up some super nice numbers at a lower school and getting NIL deals from schools desperate to fill roster holes.

Personally, I'd like to see us develop a rep where we turn 25-60th ranked players into NBA players. Ayo. Shannon. That's the kind of development that I think attracts players.

Right now, if you're on the bench at P6 school, I'm not sure if you ever get off it. Heck, we have guys relegating Ty to fewer minutes.
 
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I'm not sure what "the same offensive category" means. Neither of them are threats from beyond the ark. This means their combined presence on the floor for us would enable two of our opponent's defensive players to clog the paint and prevent our other players from getting points in the paint.
i assume the staff believes improvement is possible. His stroke looks fine. They didn’t hesitate to bring him in.
 
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army or navy uniform?? ;-) or maybe... Illini basketball uniform?

Seriously, I believe that Coach bread develops his players throughout the year and that they're much better players by February. Physically they start developing during the summer and continue throughout the school year with nutrition, weight training, basketball skills and endurance. Last year's team looked way more coordinated and with superior stamina by the end of the year, and they were an "old" team too.
 
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Nice writeups (1st full article is $) on Kasparas Jakucionis here (2nd article craps on Demin as well):


 
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Fair enough, tho I will point out 1 year of redshirting at Illinois includes Body by Fletch, and also, the coach at the P6 school can see your development every day in practice.

If you develop, you stay and play. If you dont, you get recruited over. I could be wrong, but I dont think developmental prospects are completely gone. The system will level out at some point. And rather quickly I believe. I mean Illinois is already bringing in transfers with multiple years of playing time left. If development was done at P6, we would just bring in a new round of seniors every year.

Thats my very uniformed opinion anyway.
Underwood has shown he will recruit over a starter if he has someone better willing to come. I would be amazed if Rodgers starts next year. In fact, if we bring in 2 more guys, he could be outside the rotation.

We're going to bring in 9 or 10 guys. We're not going to play a 9 or 10 man rotation. Underwood never has. So, someone is going to transfer in and ride the pine. Do you think that guy(s) is going to stay after that? Do you think Underwood is not going to look for another crop of transfers next year?

I believe Humrichous will be the only Sr. We've already got Fears coming in for that scholarship. We could leave one open, but do you think Fears will be the only guy we bring in next year? There's going to be turnover again. Probably a fair amount of it.
 
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