TSJ Thread

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Shannon's team yesterday subpoenaed the KBI for evidence. They have two weeks to respond from when they receive it, unless they reject like the hospital did. The KBI has also been told to appear in court as a defense witness on 6/12. I suspect this is to cover their bases in case Daubert doesn't work out.
 
#152      
If it can be proven it will be one of the first things that come into evidence. I have to believe that is a rumor because if provable I cannot imagine any prosecutor moving forward on a case with this limited evidence
 
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Krombopulos_Michael

Aurora, Illinois (that’s a suburb of Chicago)
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#159      
Because I'm tired of relying on self-described reporters who end up just posting snippets. Here's the full document that he's referring to, filed yesterday and added to the system after my last update.

Important- the KU police investigated and dismissed the case against that suspect. My current theory is that this suspect is a KU athlete, but I will keep investigating.
 

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#163      
Yeah. This new thing seems pretty far fetched to me, but it's death by a thousand cuts for this case.
The whole story has always bugged me a bit because I fully believe that something happened to this girl. I would like to think that the entire thing is not made up.


But if she isn't even positive it was him how could a jury? How can the DA?

Obviously, there are things we don't know about (I think)
 
#165      
Wait a minute, I figured it out. This is Arterio Morris they're talking about. And his hair is "kind of" similar to Shannon's in a dark room.
 
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#166      
Because I'm tired of relying on self-described reporters who end up just posting snippets. Here's the full document that he's referring to, filed yesterday and added to the system after my last update.

Important- the KU police investigated and dismissed the case against that suspect. My current theory is that this suspect is a KU athlete, but I will keep investigating.
Nice work, IlliniFan2. Just clarify one of your comments, however, this is a portion of what the motion says (all quoted verbatim, emphasis added):

"9. It has recently come to the attention of the defense that a female patron at the same bar involved in Mr. Shannon’s Complaint alleges that she was present at the bar on August 26, 2023, when a black male (“3rd party”) sexually assaulted her in the “corner” of a room at the bar by grabbing her vagina. (Counsel for the State has confirmed the date and general location of the alleged assault by the 3rd party. Counsel for Mr. Shannon inquired of the State if the August assault took place in the “corner” of the Martini room. Counsel for the State refused to provide this information.) Unlike M.N., the victim was wearing pants at the time, such that the perpetrator was not able to touch her under her clothing.

10. This victim reported the allegations to University of Kansas Police and ultimately—after September 9, 2023--the 3rd party was charged with raping the victim at different location on the same night as the alleged assault in the bar. Those charges were subsequently dismissed.

11. Counsel has recently determined that the 3rd party identified as responsible for the August sexual assault (less than 2 weeks prior to incident in which Mr. Shannon is allegedly involved) was present at the bar, in the room, and in the same vicinity around the time that M.N. was allegedly assaulted."
 
#168      

BirdDog9048

The Chief Lives
Chicago, IL
Well this is new information from this morning's hearing, the inconsistency with what was taken down in the police report (which is minor but critical) is certainly relevant to where things proceed from here.


TSJ testified as well today, very interested to hear his side of it here, I hope these tweets continue.

EDIT: I've always assumed this was TSJ's story, and it is indeed so

"She testified drinking 3 sips of a vodka Red Bull the entire night with no drinks before, during or immediately after the football game and despite going to two other bars"

Yeah, sure, okay.
 
#169      

ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
Nice work, IlliniFan2. Just clarify one of your comments, however, this is a portion of what the motion says (all quoted verbatim, emphasis added):

"9. It has recently come to the attention of the defense that a female patron at the same bar involved in Mr. Shannon’s Complaint alleges that she was present at the bar on August 26, 2023, when a black male (“3rd party”) sexually assaulted her in the “corner” of a room at the bar by grabbing her vagina. (Counsel for the State has confirmed the date and general location of the alleged assault by the 3rd party. Counsel for Mr. Shannon inquired of the State if the August assault took place in the “corner” of the Martini room. Counsel for the State refused to provide this information.) Unlike M.N., the victim was wearing pants at the time, such that the perpetrator was not able to touch her under her clothing.

10. This victim reported the allegations to University of Kansas Police and ultimately—after September 9, 2023--the 3rd party was charged with raping the victim at different location on the same night as the alleged assault in the bar. Those charges were subsequently dismissed.

11. Counsel has recently determined that the 3rd party identified as responsible for the August sexual assault (less than 2 weeks prior to incident in which Mr. Shannon is allegedly involved) was present at the bar, in the room, and in the same vicinity around the time that M.N. was allegedly assaulted."
This is Arterio Morris, that's the 3rd party in question.
 
#170      
Big picture, if Morris is guilty, then Valdez has let a guilty man go free while making an innocent man take the fall. Well that's not gonna help her in the primary.

His case was dismissed without prejudice so it can be picked back up. I wonder if Shannon's defense wants to compare DNA results and do all the work for the DA.
 
#174      

IlliniKat91

Chicago, IL
And doesn’t Arterio look quite a bit like Terrence with his hair, enough that when looking through team photos on the internet, one might pick Terrence instead of Arterio??? Maybe the girl just ID’d the wrong guy???
They look nothing alike to me, but I'm seeing a well lit photo and it's not a similar hairstyle. In a dark bar, it might be a different story