Illinois Football Recruiting Thread

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Is an epic decommitment season coming?

here is an article y'all might find interesting. This could end up helping us catch back up if this ends up happening. It certainly explains why it feels like we are way farther back in recruiting than usual this early in the recruiting cycle.

For those that don't feel like reading it... The current number of commits for the 2021 recruiting class is more than the last 2 classes combined at this stage. Since there's no camps, campus visits, in home visits, etc. Coaches are just offering a lot of guys sight unseen with the intent to take away the offer to committed players that they don't like once they evaluate them. Players are committing like crazy trying to reserve a spot on their preferred choice with the intent to look at all of their options once recruiting is allowed again.... This article speculates that we could see a ton of decommits once players and coaches get a better feel for each other.
This is actually something very big. Late rising seniors are going to be re-evaluated during the season and a lot of class that have a ton of commits already... (Tenn, Minn, Ohio State) are going to force kids out. Also a lot of these kids committing haven’t visited the schools they are committing to. Signing day is going to be the Wild West. I’ll bet our board is filled with guys the staff is going to offer later and try to flip by signing day.... ex Johnny newton or Cooper Davis. Also this is a huge reason some kids don’t have the strongest offer list we are on. A lot of kids jump in offers during their junior summer/spring because of camps. No camps=less exposure. You could find some real diamonds in the rough later in the process because they didn’t attend camps.
 
I have started doing some work for a recruiting service during all this free time and wanted to help people on this board to follow recruiting. So i have been working on this for awhile and compiling everything i have been hearing into one form. The number in parentheses is how many i see us taking. Green= We are the favorite/should land them if we want them, yellow= okay chance, should be involved until the end, orange= some mutual interest and red= no real chance. If you have any questions please let me know. If i have left a player off then we have no chance and didn't want to waste the space.
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I could see this going different ways.

This will open recruits that weren't open before.

Signing day will likely be a clusterfudge, leaving many players spurned.

The way we recruit, from what I gather, is we go all in on certain recruits and we ask them to take their time and make sure they are getting what they want. Once those players choose another program, we are unlikely to reconsider. So much of Lovie's approach involves buy-in, that he doesn't seem to want indecisiveness or lack of communication. The staff is so trusting that they don't have space for distrust or questioning.

I doubt we will reconsider recruits like Travion Ford (but I don't actually know), not like anyone would spurn him. But, I imagine we have kids that we haven't offered that we will pursue and many of those are committed.

Despite the lack of information and the lack of commits, I do not think the staff feels they are behind with who they want. They have some misses, like Travion Ford, but they also got have solid pieces committed and they know what they have in the pipeline with players ready or willing to commit.
I agree with that our approach is that wait for buy-in. Maybe our lean towards transfers is also a similar thought of let them get that first notion out the way.
 
Would you ever hear otherwise?
Good point. But there is a difference in whether the staff needs to scramble because they feel they are behind and need to make up ground and this staff isn't at the point of scrambling. There are plenty of solid players we are in on and will land. The staff would argue that the people they are bringing in have higher ceilings than most of who that brought in with the first class.
 
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Good point. But there is a difference in whether the staff needs to scramble because they feel they are behind and need to make up ground and this staff isn't at the point of scrambling. There are plenty of solid players we are in on and will land. The staff would argue that the people they are bringing in have higher ceilings than most of who that brought in with the first class.
And, I get that many on here will be disappointed with the lack fo 4* on the roster. At the end, if we regress, I will be worried. But I do not see that at this point.
 
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And, I get that many on here will be disappointed with the lack fo 4* on the roster. At the end, if we regress, I will be worried. But I do not see that at this point.
4* players are obviously the caliber of players that we want to recruit but we had the second most 4* in the west (including more than double Minnesota) last year behind nebraska. Clearly that didn't translate well for either us or Nebraska because the caliber of 3* aren't on par with Wisconsin or iowa. All we can do is wait and see but I hope the caliber of 3* we have recruited recently is higher than it has been in the past. If we can find a bunch of Bobby roundtree type recruits and start winning with them then i don't care if we get 4* players.
 
4* players are obviously the caliber of players that we want to recruit but we had the second most 4* in the west (including more than double Minnesota) last year behind nebraska. Clearly that didn't translate well for either us or Nebraska because the caliber of 3* aren't on par with Wisconsin or iowa. All we can do is wait and see but I hope the caliber of 3* we have recruited recently is higher than it has been in the past. If we can find a bunch of Bobby roundtree type recruits and start winning with them then i don't care if we get 4* players.
My biggest compliment to the staff is how many under the radar guys they have hit on. They do have a very solid eye for talent. Think about devon weatherspoon, tarique barnes, dalevon campbell, casey washington, sydney brown and Isiah gay. All those guys were underrated recruits and will be big pieces now and in the future. I give the staff some credit when it comes to flyers on guys they like.
 
4* players are obviously the caliber of players that we want to recruit but we had the second most 4* in the west (including more than double Minnesota) last year behind nebraska. Clearly that didn't translate well for either us or Nebraska because the caliber of 3* aren't on par with Wisconsin or iowa. All we can do is wait and see but I hope the caliber of 3* we have recruited recently is higher than it has been in the past. If we can find a bunch of Bobby roundtree type recruits and start winning with them then i don't care if we get 4* players.
I think this is what most people are missing. We need difference makers, but we need to upgrade the top two at every position (almost) more than we need difference makers. Look at who we had make a difference for us through last season. We had turnovers from our lowest rated recruits, such as Nate Hobbs, Sydney Brown, Jake Hansen, Stanley Green. The were all low 3* players (at best). The system allows for plays to be made when players are in position and making reads.
 
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Markiese Irving committing today, we’re warm for him on 247, only one crystal ball and it’s undecided
 
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I see Ryheem Craig trended way to Louisville on 247. Werner picked Louisville for him yesterday.

I'm gonna guess Willie Shaw and Caden Fordham to us this weekend.
 
My insider status hopes dashed just like that! :confused:

But maybe increases our hopes for Irving. We'll keep watching Werner now.
 
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