NCAA Issues/Scandals/Corruption

#76
Catch & Release: Self is caught, but we all know how this turns out.
 
#77
I just watched the 30 for 30 Lance Armstrong. This sounds a lot like Lance always being the aggressor when people indicated he was using PEDs.
 
#78
I just watched the 30 for 30 Lance Armstrong. This sounds a lot like Lance always being the aggressor when people indicated he was using PEDs.
I have a long history on this one --started following Lance as an amateur, and did some racing myself. Spoke with his teammates along the way, and attended a number of his early races. When he was known as a 'one-day' racer in the pro ranks, a friend asked me if he would win the TdF and I said I wouldn't put it past him, given how competitive he was (no one in the sports press that I'm aware of at that time thought he could convert). Eventually, he won Toud Dupont which was a hard stage race and the biggest in the US. Of course, then came the cancer and his remarkable story of not only surviving it, but avoiding some of the worst treatment options that would have ruined any potential career subsequently. And the rest, as they say, is history.

Everyone I've ever spoken with about Lance paints a picture of a ruthless dictator. He's not only oblivious to the devastation he wreaks, he's vindictive to those who get caught in his way. Below is an interesting read about some of the things he did to one his "friends". It's just one of a zillion stories on how he's gone after people that trusted him and supported him. Everyone loves a winner (me included), but rooting for him was a faustian bargain. It took tremendous work to bring the truth to light, and a lot of folks suffered to bring it out.

https://deadspin.com/betsy-andreu-speaks-out-on-lance-and-lance-1843907699

He's a fascinating story, and his unrepentant belief in himself makes it all the more so. IMHO, he's more of a cautionary tale of winning at all costs, and how difficult it is to topple a powerful person. It's a story that repeats itself constantly in sport.
 
#79
I have a long history on this one --started following Lance as an amateur, and did some racing myself. Spoke with his teammates along the way, and attended a number of his early races. When he was known as a 'one-day' racer in the pro ranks, a friend asked me if he would win the TdF and I said I wouldn't put it past him, given how competitive he was (no one in the sports press that I'm aware of at that time thought he could convert). Eventually, he won Toud Dupont which was a hard stage race and the biggest in the US. Of course, then came the cancer and his remarkable story of not only surviving it, but avoiding some of the worst treatment options that would have ruined any potential career subsequently. And the rest, as they say, is history.

Everyone I've ever spoken with about Lance paints a picture of a ruthless dictator. He's not only oblivious to the devastation he wreaks, he's vindictive to those who get caught in his way. Below is an interesting read about some of the things he did to one his "friends". It's just one of a zillion stories on how he's gone after people that trusted him and supported him. Everyone loves a winner (me included), but rooting for him was a faustian bargain. It took tremendous work to bring the truth to light, and a lot of folks suffered to bring it out.

https://deadspin.com/betsy-andreu-speaks-out-on-lance-and-lance-1843907699

He's a fascinating story, and his unrepentant belief in himself makes it all the more so. IMHO, he's more of a cautionary tale of winning at all costs, and how difficult it is to topple a powerful person. It's a story that repeats itself constantly in sport.
Today I learned that Deadspin is still alive.
 
#83
Love the phrase “for conduct that is commonplace” like when is cheating going to be an issue for blue bloods.
 
#84
Love the phrase “for conduct that is commonplace” like when is cheating going to be an issue for blue bloods.
Remember when President Nixon was interviewed and said, "if the President does it, it must be legal"? Just substitute Duke/North Carolina/Kansus....
 
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#85
“To put it bluntly, the NCAA enforcement staff is attempting to end Mr. Self’s long and very successful coaching career for conduct which all coaches engage in and which the NCAA has known for many years is commonplace and permissible.”
 
#86
“To put it bluntly, the NCAA enforcement staff is attempting to end Mr. Self’s long and very successful coaching career for conduct which all coaches engage in and which the NCAA has known for many years is commonplace and permissable.”(assuming you are a blue bloods)
 
#88
Not Iowa
“To put it bluntly, the NCAA's (incompetent) enforcement staff (actually for once found enough violations to actually stick - which is saying something due to their lack of skills, and) is attempting to end Mr. Self’s long and very successful coaching career (because they are mean, mean people), and for breaking the rules for (illegal) conduct, (and because they are very mean), which all coaches (on our staff) engage in and which the NCAA has known for many years is commonplace and permissible (and they are mean) .”
FIFY. I have to give credit to Self's lawyer for using the controversial "busted 6th-grader" line of defense. "His illegal actions are actually OK, mostly because everyone is doing it." The only bigger head-scratcher is that.... it may work.