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Old Dec 30, 2012, 05:30 PM   #3226
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I see I made the Diamond Stone picture. Great game on Sat. Time to get ready for the Big Ten season. Would love a 15 class of Brunson, Matthews, Willams and Stone this staff could make it happen!!
Haha congrats, look at you in the big timer seats.

I agree, it was a fun game to go to.

2015 is going to be a big time class. I am really interested in seeing how the 2014 class ends up and if we can add an Alexander or Lyle type to Finke.

Groce has been able to work on the 2015 class from the beginning and that will be his first monster class imo. Luckily we have a lot of scholarships that year too.

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Old Dec 30, 2012, 05:39 PM   #3227
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I was just checking out espn recruiting list for Illinois, I came across this name Tyler Wideman PF 6'7" 245 out of Lake Central High School in Merriville, IN. Just wondering if anyone has any updates on him?
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Old Dec 30, 2012, 05:48 PM   #3228
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I think it is the coaching of Sir Groce (and his Staff).

212 degree it is.

This man can coach UP.
I'll second that.
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Old Dec 30, 2012, 05:50 PM   #3229
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I also think that Langford has a better shot at a starting perimeter position than Henry.
I think it will be a very nice problem for Groce.

Even better if one of them is coming off the bench to relieve CA and the other starters.
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Old Dec 30, 2012, 05:50 PM   #3230
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I see I made the Diamond Stone picture. Great game on Sat. Time to get ready for the Big Ten season. Would love a 15 class of Brunson, Matthews, Willams and Stone this staff could make it happen!!
Brunson is having a hot fall, but I don't think he's really at the top of the list right now, especially with Matthews wanting to play PG.

The big concern with Brunson right now is athleticism, specifically speed with the ball. He looks the part, but he still needs to develop the ability to get past defenders without over-dribbling.
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Old Dec 30, 2012, 06:33 PM   #3231
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I see I made the Diamond Stone picture. Great game on Sat. Time to get ready for the Big Ten season. Would love a 15 class of Brunson, Matthews, Willams and Stone this staff could make it happen!!
Which one are you ill??
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Old Dec 30, 2012, 06:37 PM   #3232
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I see I made the Diamond Stone picture. Great game on Sat. Time to get ready for the Big Ten season. Would love a 15 class of Brunson, Matthews, Willams and Stone this staff could make it happen!!
That line up would be great but what is your opinion on Edwards, marrow, and the big guy from Texas whose name is escaping me right now?
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Old Dec 30, 2012, 06:42 PM   #3233
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Old Dec 30, 2012, 06:50 PM   #3234
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Brunson is having a hot fall, but I don't think he's really at the top of the list right now, especially with Matthews wanting to play PG.

The big concern with Brunson right now is athleticism, specifically speed with the ball. He looks the part, but he still needs to develop the ability to get past defenders without over-dribbling.
Lyle could also influence the 15 batch.

However, I would expect Groce to have two top notch PG by 15.
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Old Dec 30, 2012, 06:56 PM   #3235
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Lyle could also influence the 15 batch.

However, I would expect Groce to have two top notch PG by 15.
Neither Matthews or Lyle are true pgs, they are combos. We will absolutely need a true point guard in that class even if we get both (which would be amazing). It would allow us to have many skilled ball handlers on the court and that is something groce wants. There is no way groce passes up on a true pg that year when his offense relies so heavily on having one.
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Old Dec 30, 2012, 09:13 PM   #3236
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Neither Matthews or Lyle are true pgs, they are combos. We will absolutely need a true point guard in that class even if we get both (which would be amazing). It would allow us to have many skilled ball handlers on the court and that is something groce wants. There is no way groce passes up on a true pg that year when his offense relies so heavily on having one.
No, if you got both of those then you don't need a "true PG".. those guys would be good enough to where you wouldnt need one
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Old Dec 30, 2012, 09:41 PM   #3237
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Old Dec 30, 2012, 09:48 PM   #3238
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Kendrick video from this weekend!!
That oop from Jabari to Kendrick was ridiculous
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Old Dec 30, 2012, 09:49 PM   #3239
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Old Dec 30, 2012, 10:27 PM   #3240
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Watched that video of Alexander. All he does is dunk, rebound, and block shots. Someone tell me again why we want this guy.
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Old Dec 30, 2012, 10:34 PM   #3241
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Watched that video of Alexander. All he does is dunk, rebound, and block shots. Someone tell me again why we want this guy.
Please tell me this is you kidding.
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Old Dec 30, 2012, 10:37 PM   #3242
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Watched that video of Alexander. All he does is dunk, rebound, and block shots. Someone tell me again why we want this guy.
HA!
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Old Dec 30, 2012, 10:37 PM   #3243
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Please tell me this is you kidding.
I am still not sure if he is kidding or not since we have 0 of those things he mentioned.
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Old Dec 30, 2012, 10:39 PM   #3244
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Watched that video of Alexander. All he does is dunk, rebound, and block shots. Someone tell me again why we want this guy.
Maybe the manner and frequency in which he dunks, rebounds, and blocks shots? This guy is one and done, my goodness....

Tate and Nunn looking good too!
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Old Dec 30, 2012, 10:42 PM   #3245
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I am still not sure if he is kidding or not since we have 0 of those things he mentioned.
Ha!
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Old Dec 30, 2012, 10:53 PM   #3246
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Thx, Dan. JT seems much improved from the games I saw of him on TV last Feb/March. He's not a wow athlete like LA Jr. or Nunn, but he has some nice attributes: good quickness, good court vision, excellent passing skills, tight handles and his shooting form is decent. Has the elbow under the ball and a pretty good follow-through. As he gets stronger hitting the weights, it's easy to see him becoming a solid B1G PG and fitting in well in JG's system. Question is how high is his ceiling? If the staff can develop TA into a consistently good attacking PG, there's no reason to believe they can't do the same for JT.
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Old Dec 30, 2012, 11:05 PM   #3247
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Maybe the manner and frequency in which he dunks, rebounds, and blocks shots? This guy is one and done, my goodness....

Tate and Nunn looking good too!
I dont see Alexander as one and done. I realize he could develop a lot in 2 years, but I think more time to mature would be needed.
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Old Dec 30, 2012, 11:28 PM   #3248
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Please tell me this is you kidding.
Absolutely. Haven't had that type of explosiveness down low at Illinois in . . . forever.
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Old Dec 30, 2012, 11:47 PM   #3249
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Absolutely. Haven't had that type of explosiveness down low at Illinois in . . . forever.
How could you forget Shelly Clark???
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Old Dec 30, 2012, 11:57 PM   #3250
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Alexander isn't a 7-footer, but his length, high shoulders, and quick leaping make him play like a much taller player. His first step in the post is exceptionally explosive. Just from the highlight, it looks like he has things to work on, like not bringing the ball down and not always going to his left shoulder on his post moves. But sure, he's a lottery pick.
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