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Old Apr 15, 2018, 08:38 AM   #76
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Posted this in another thread, but here's where Mark's Player Efficiency Rating ranked among freshman guard seasons we've had over the last decade.



In all seriousness, best of luck to Mark, but I'm not losing any sleep over this.
Awesome thanks for this
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Old Apr 15, 2018, 08:38 AM   #77
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if MS uses his year off to really work on his game it wouldn’t surprise me at all if he becomes a really good college player.

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Old Apr 15, 2018, 08:49 AM   #78
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lol can't wait for Braggin Rights game now. Should be interesting for sure. We'll beat them again .
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Old Apr 15, 2018, 08:52 AM   #79
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Sounds like there's bad blood between Rameys and Smiths since Mark played for Terrell. Anthony Smith must be a real peach.
JC, in your travels yesterday, were there any cake sightings with tiger frosting on it coming out of the Edwardsville Bakery?

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Old Apr 15, 2018, 08:54 AM   #80
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Isn’t Ramey an ‘18 recruit? Mark Smith won’t be playing this year, and Ramey will be headed to NBA (surely this is his belief, though I have no idea!) unless they are limited on schollies, does this hurt them, really?
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Old Apr 15, 2018, 08:56 AM   #81
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Posted this in another thread, but here's where Mark's Player Efficiency Rating ranked among freshman guard seasons we've had over the last decade.



In all seriousness, best of luck to Mark, but I'm not losing any sleep over this.
Wow. Did not realize he was the equivalent of Tate. I liked Tate, but he should have never been a power 5 conference point guard.
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Old Apr 15, 2018, 09:02 AM   #82
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Wow. Did not realize he was the equivalent of Tate. I liked Tate, but he should have never been a power 5 conference point guard.
He shouldn't have been a starter but he would have been a good backup at a lot of schools.
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Old Apr 15, 2018, 09:05 AM   #83
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He shouldn't have been a starter but he would have been a good backup at a lot of schools.
You gotta wonder what he looks like under a staff that had any clue about skill development.

Tate was a weird player. A wizard with the really hard stuff of being a point guard, but incompetent at the basics.

You could see him becoming a good coach one day.
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Old Apr 15, 2018, 09:45 AM   #84
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Can't wait to see Trent school Mark Smith in the Braggin Rights game in a couple years! I mean to wear Kendall Gills jersey number and to act like you are the home state hero and then transfer to Mizzou??? Wow! I'd expect the home state kid to stick it out since he acted like he had so much pride in the Illini. Hope he does well in life but I hope we kick their ass in a couple years!
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Old Apr 15, 2018, 10:06 AM   #85
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From the Kansas City Star:

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The 6-foot-4 point guard can play both guard spots, but will likely play point guard for Missouri.
I think we've seen this movie before.

Like others have said, I'm really happy Mizzou ended up with Smith instead of Ramey. The Mizzou recruiting class this year is really, really weak.
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Old Apr 15, 2018, 10:08 AM   #86
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People sure seem to be going out of their way not to recruit Courtney Ramey. One suspects there is more to that story.
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Old Apr 15, 2018, 10:25 AM   #87
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People sure seem to be going out of their way not to recruit Courtney Ramey. One suspects there is more to that story.
Kansas might get victimized again.

They seem to have kind of a Stockholm syndrome thing going on.
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Old Apr 15, 2018, 10:34 AM   #88
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Posted this in another thread, but here's where Mark's Player Efficiency Rating ranked among freshman guard seasons we've had over the last decade.



In all seriousness, best of luck to Mark, but I'm not losing any sleep over this.
Interesting graph. I would have thought DJ Richardson would be higher. He had a great freshman year.
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Old Apr 15, 2018, 11:04 AM   #89
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Does this announcement come with another speech from his high school principal?
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And not.
Not sure why they shouldn't have to endure that as we did...
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Old Apr 15, 2018, 11:06 AM   #90
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Can't wait to see Trent school Mark Smith in the Braggin Rights game in a couple years! I mean to wear Kendall Gills jersey number and to act like you are the home state hero and then transfer to Mizzou??? Wow! I'd expect the home state kid to stick it out since he acted like he had so much pride in the Illini. Hope he does well in life but I hope we kick their ass in a couple years!
Just occurred to me he may leave the team by then if he gets recruited over. We may never see him.
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Old Apr 15, 2018, 11:18 AM   #91
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Why would folks Boo someone who just did us a favor ?

By then end of the season, Mark Smith could barely stay on the court on a team that went 4-14 in conference. With all the talent coming in next year, all he would do is take up space on the pine filling a slot BU now is using to snag better talent.

If Trent left for MO, Id be furious. Instead Im looking up the address to send Smiths dad a fruit basket. Total two-fer = we free up space for someone who actually can cut it in the B1G, and Cuonznoz gains an ankle weight that wont help him win any games (apart from potentially helping land Lidell).

By the time Smith even sniffs the court 18 months from now, our success will have made this a distant memory.


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If all Illini fans boo the people who are not booing....I think it will work out just fine.
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Old Apr 15, 2018, 11:31 AM   #92
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No offense to Mark Smith, but he is not even close to being a good enough player to be referred to as IDKWTI 2.
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Old Apr 15, 2018, 11:32 AM   #93
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I think the jury is still out on Smith.

First, he's an unusual recruit in that we never saw him matched up in AAU, the principal way of rating guys. Alan Griffin will be held down in final assessments because everyone has an AAU baseline on him. Smith never had that which probably over valued his high school season.

Second, he got his confidence busted. Whether his problems were a result of that or just a result of a talent deficit, we don't really know. We've seen plenty of guys come around in the last couple seasons as they get their confidence built up.

I think it was probably a mistake to go to Mizzou. It just adds one more factor into his career that a guy who needs to get on track shouldn't be looking for. If was Martin, I wouldn't be seeing this as positive unless it got me in on Liddell and others.
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Old Apr 15, 2018, 12:16 PM   #94
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I guess I am on an island. I think this is the start of the best case scenario for ILL. I expect BU to have a functional and winning basketball team in the next two years. If Conzo keeps getting talent and wasting it, while BU wins with perceived less talent, kids are going to shy away from Mizzou like Mark Smith to competition.
Sorry for ending with a little jab. Meant for humor, not insult.
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Old Apr 15, 2018, 12:25 PM   #95
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In an exclusive interview with the Onion Mark Smith revealed he chose bitter rival Mizznoz to spite all Illini fans who questioned his heart and his talent while vowing to make them regret it for years to come.
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Old Apr 15, 2018, 12:54 PM   #96
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In an exclusive interview with the Onion Mark Smith revealed he chose bitter rival Mizznoz to spite all Illini fans who questioned his heart and his talent while vowing to make them regret it for years to come.
I questioned his ability to defend well this year, but I never questioned his heart, drive, talent. I suspect a lot of Illini fans will join me in wishing him well. I hope he does well at Mizzou and finds his game at the college level. He's got the talent. It just didn't work out for him here. No hard feelings Mark! Just try to have or two bad games a year against us if possible.
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Old Apr 15, 2018, 12:57 PM   #97
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A year and a half from now most of us will not recall MS playing for us.
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Old Apr 15, 2018, 01:37 PM   #98
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Does this announcement come with another speech from his high school principal?
It was actually his A.D. Wishing Mark all the best in his career. He had tremendous expectations placed on him coming here and it just did not work out. As much as I hate Mizzery, I hope he earns his degree and has a great college career.
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Old Apr 15, 2018, 01:41 PM   #99
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I don't like Mizzo.
I don't care for CM.
I would boo Gordon and Snider if I had the chance,
I would boo Grayson Allen if I saw him buying coffee at Starbucks.

Can't say the same for Smith. He appears to be a good kid with a controlling parent. He has a history with Mizzo so I don't think his transfer there is a shot at the Illini. He wants to play at a P5 school close to home and I can't blame him. I wish him luck. By the time he is eligible we will be a much better program than Mizzo.
True to all. Unfortunately, Mark Smith didn't give our staff a chance to help him grow. Think he will regret this choice, wish him nothing but the best. BU did more than enough to get him there, he was not able to make the grade. Time for us to move forward, he did allow someone else to have a spot they could do something with.
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Old Apr 15, 2018, 02:28 PM   #100
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If leaving ILL was totally Mark Smith's decision, then according to those who post opinions, it was because Brad yelled at him and made him work hard. Well, what does he thing playing for Cuonzo is going to be like? As for Cuonzo, his greatest recruiting accomplishments are players he snatched from other teams. (The count is up to 4 now) If I'm a HS player, this does not cause me to want to go to Miznoz. As for the Braggin' Rights game, MS is not anywhere near as boo-able as Tilmon and Cuonzo. And now that Tilmon was a freshman flopperoo, not so much for him either. Actually, ILL fans should cheer for both Smith and Tilmon to be on the floor to rapidly pick up personals.
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