dgcrow
- Kelso, WA
What will the new date be when the end of the month comes and goes?
Reminds me of the permanent sign I spotted once in a bar: "Free drinks tomorrow".
What will the new date be when the end of the month comes and goes?
- "Terrible decision looks and is terrible"
- "Our unprecedented move that not only will stunt our football program but also showed a total abdication of leadership and basic responsibility is actually our AD-hiring ace-in-the-hole"
One of these positions is certainly rainbows and ponies BS.
Whitman in the W Lafayette paper and FB chatter for Purdue. Didn't realize I lived in his hometown.
No. Matt isn't right. He has an opinion and there is literally no way to know at this time whether or not kicking the can down the road with Cubit was a good decision or not in the long term.
How do you know Babers or any of our other would-be targets wanted to come to this dumpster fire not even knowing who their bosses would be? You don't. You gave zero idea. None. You guys act like we had Babers in the bag even after Thomas was fired which is complete ponies and rainbows BS. You guys are positing a best case scenario as fact.
If Cubit is a bad look, I can't imagine what would have happened if we moved on from Cubit and then missed on our top targets. Then what? Now THAT would be an "albatross around the neck of the new AD." Cubit isn't an albatross around anyone's neck. He's completely disposable. He knows it. The admin knows it. Everyone knows it except some message board posters and some sports writers that don't truly understand the situation. He won't even be around for next signing day, and had we signed Babers we'd have likely signed a very similar class as Cubit did regardless.
Your entire argument for the Cubit hire being terrible is presenting the best case scenario as a retrospective foregone conclusion.
We just signed the only class Cubit is likely to assemble here, and it really wasn't any worse than what Babers put together at his new job. I know we are all upset, but it's just not the scorched earth, end of the world scenario you are making it out to be.
It was mentioned on this forum long ago back in November and linked. Sturdy had several sources that stated Babers was interested in the UI gig...this is with an interim Chancellor and an I term AD.No. Matt isn't right. He has an opinion and there is literally no way to know at this time whether or not kicking the can down the road with Cubit was a good decision or not in the long term.
How do you know Babers or any of our other would-be targets wanted to come to this dumpster fire not even knowing who their bosses would be? You don't. You gave zero idea. None. You guys act like we had Babers in the bag even after Thomas was fired which is complete ponies and rainbows BS. You guys are positing a best case scenario as fact.
If Cubit is a bad look, I can't imagine what would have happened if we moved on from Cubit and then missed on our top targets. Then what? Now THAT would be an "albatross around the neck of the new AD." Cubit isn't an albatross around anyone's neck. He's completely disposable. He knows it. The admin knows it. Everyone knows it except some message board posters and some sports writers that don't truly understand the situation. He won't even be around for next signing day, and had we signed Babers we'd have likely signed a very similar class as Cubit did regardless.
That would be Illinois. Let Whitman go to Purdue and then listen to the same people going no big deal whine and cry when he turns out he knows what he is doing. I wold be fine with Whitman and am surprised it is not done yet. How many people are there that have actually run a P5 athletic department that are available that were not fired at their previous one? Guessing not many and a guy that has led two departments is more than qualified to move up and run our !!!! program. Should be done already.
is this the dagger to the heart of the program everyone is afraid of?????:huh::huh:Et tu, Brute?
is this the dagger to the heart of the program everyone is afraid of?????:huh::huh:
These posts added a slice of humor to mine.Et tu, Brute?
These posts added a slice of humor to mine.
Well, we let Jim Phillips get away and now he's regarded as one of the top 5 ADs in college sports. We let Rick George get away and he's on his way to being a top AD. We let Craig Tiley get away and now he may no longer be interested.
All three at one time would have killed for the AD job here - now they are on to bigger and better things. I fear that Whitman is next. I'm fine at this point just wrapping it up and hiring Whitman.
We did? When?
Let Phillips get away? He was never "ours" to let go.
Ditto with George.
AD's don't want to inherit a coach who is disposable because he is low cost and low commitment, they want to inherit a coach who is disposable because the school is willing to pony up if it doesn't work out.
In other words: The big boy move was to hire the best we could--Babers, Brohm, whoever, put them on a respectable 1.5-2 million dollar contract and simply give the new AD the resources to pull the plug.
We handicapped our football program because we were not willing to risk paying a real buyout. You think that's attractive to potential candidates?
I think it was terrible idea to hire Cubit. But, I think your resoning is the exact opposite of what they would feel. They would like to inherit a disposable coach.
I've heard from two candidates this week who are a bit confused, wondering if they're still on the radar or if they've fallen into the abyss without having been told..
One candidate said he was surprised to have been contacted a second time late this past week. He thought he might have been eliminated. Now he's been told they may wish to speak with him again. So he's not sure. Is he in or is he out?
http://herald-review.com/sports/tup...cle_5144c91f-5be7-5ec0-9468-ece7b5a916d5.html
...both George and Tiley were taken off the board...
Per Dan's link, according to Tupper, Tiley is off the board...:tsk:
We did? When?
Let Phillips get away? He was never "ours" to let go.
Ditto with George.