The Illinois AD Search

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Dan

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AD George Addresses Illinois

"Nobody has called me and I haven't talked to anyone," George said. "I'd be lying if I didn't say at one point in my life being AD at Illinois wasn't my dream job. But I love it here at Colorado and I'm excited about what we've accomplished since I've been here as well as what the immediate future holds. But I just think it's way too early to be talking about anything right now in that regard."

http://www.cubuffs.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=600&ATCLID=210488698#.VkPLrZXyR1Q.twitter
 
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EJ33

San Francisco
It'd be so Illinois not to get Rick George. He is the best candidate mentioned thus far -- and it's not even close.

What definitely makes sense is that Rick George has been an absolute home run hire for Colorado, and the benefits have only just begun to show.

http://bsndenver.com/rick-george-pressing-all-the-right-buttons-at-colorado/

Hiring George as AD is the best move CU's made since a female buffalo was chosen to play Ralphie.

"I hope they don't take this the wrong way," Mike White told me over the phone. "But Colorado has no idea how good Rick George is. I'll tell you this: They're going to find out how good he is."

Edit: The quote from White is even more amazing when you consider that George's recruiting violation with Hart Lee Dykes was part of the reason he lost his job.

http://gazette.com/klee-heres-the-past-now-rick-george-is-the-answer-for-cus-future/article/1504386

Rick George is a whirlwind swirling with Illini colors. He would be the UI’s grand slam. If it was put to a popular vote, George would be the next Illini athletic director in a landslide

http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/illini-sports/baseball/2015-11-10/tate-george-might-be-perfect-match.html
 
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Shampoobanana

Northwest Suburbs of Chicago

I hate to pee on the parade here but the way George worded that statement is not promising at all. He positioned his comments with the University of Colorado specifically. It's highly unlikely that he then leave and diss an entire university. He has too much class for that.

He could have easily deflected the question without mentioning how great CU is but he didn't. If he knew there was a chance of leaving he wouldn't have done that.

When Roy Williams was at Kansas and asked about the vacant UNC job, he never mentioned how great Kansas was. He talked about his kids and even said he could give a Damn about UNC.

The fact that George mentioned CU specifically speaks volumes.
 
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I hate to pee on the parade here but the way George worded that statement is not promising at all. He positioned his comments with the University of Colorado specifically. It's highly unlikely that he then leave and diss an entire university. He has too much class for that.

He could have easily deflected the question without mentioning how great CU is but he didn't. If he knew there was a chance of leaving he wouldn't have done that.

When Roy Williams was at Kansas and asked about the vacant UNC job, he never mentioned how great Kansas was. He talked about his kids and even said he could give a Damn about UNC.

The fact that George mentioned CU specifically speaks volumes.

Lol
 
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BZuppke

Plainfield
I agree. His statement can be taken many ways. If there was no chance he could have said how it was his dream job and how great the university is but he's staying at CU.
 
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Shampoobanana

Northwest Suburbs of Chicago

Look I'm not saying he's not coming here at all. I'd be doing back flips he he was hired but the way he mentioned CU several times in that short statement is odd.

It is nice to see him mention CU in the past tense though. Hee He.
 
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Look I'm not saying he's not coming here at all. I'd be doing back flips he he was hired but the way he mentioned CU several times in that short statement is odd.

Being a coaching search thread sick maniac, I have seen a lot of denials of interest in other jobs. That's not even a non-denial denial. I wouldn't even call that a denial.

Meaningless in the long run, but if you think that statement lends any credence whatsoever to the idea that George will stay at CU, you just aren't familiar with the usual rhetoric around these things.
 
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Shampoobanana

Northwest Suburbs of Chicago
Being a coaching search thread sick maniac, I have seen a lot of denials of interest in other jobs. That's not even a non-denial denial. I wouldn't even call that a denial.

Meaningless in the long run, but if you think that statement lends any credence whatsoever to the idea that George will stay at CU, you just aren't familiar with the usual rhetoric around these things.

I hope you're right. I just think there are better was he could have phrased it without dissing CU IF he leaves.
 
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George is not the only quality candidate

To think the sky will fall if RG (George not Guenther) stays in Boulder is foolish.
There are very strong, qualified candidates with UI backgrounds and O&B in their blood other than George. He may get the nod but Wax or Whitman would be quality hires and able to calm the seas very quickly. The key is for the administration to move quickly if they favor a person with a UI background. If not, then any outside candidate will have to be properly vetted and it will likely extend the hire until after Jan 1. Huge disadvantage on the football coach issue.
 
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Shampoobanana

Northwest Suburbs of Chicago
To think the sky will fall if RG (George not Guenther) stays in Boulder is foolish.
There are very strong, qualified candidates with UI backgrounds and O&B in their blood other than George. He may get the nod but Wax or Whitman would be quality hires and able to calm the seas very quickly. The key is for the administration to move quickly if they favor a person with a UI background. If not, then any outside candidate will have to be properly vetted and it will likely extend the hire until after Jan 1. Huge disadvantage on the football coach issue.

I agree. Would love to have to have George (grand slam) but our fan base would feel slighted and dejected with Wax or Whitman. Both home run hires.

Let's not get drunk on George.
 
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EJ33

San Francisco
I don't think the issue here is whether George would consider coming home, but rather do we have anybody in this University with the competence to bring him home. I'm pretty skeptical about that.

I sure hope this poster isn't on the search committee, but I think these comments must be how people around U of I often think.

Comparing Whitman (AD at a D-3 school) and Shawn Wax (never been an AD) to George is like comparing a major leaguer to a single A player. George is operating at a completely different level than these guys or Tom Michael. There is no comparison.

To think the sky will fall if RG (George not Guenther) stays in Boulder is foolish.
There are very strong, qualified candidates with UI backgrounds and O&B in their blood other than George. He may get the nod but Wax or Whitman would be quality hires and able to calm the seas very quickly. The key is for the administration to move quickly if they favor a person with a UI background. If not, then any outside candidate will have to be properly vetted and it will likely extend the hire until after Jan 1. Huge disadvantage on the football coach issue.
 
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If we can't get Rick George and if Mike Small's not interested, I think you've got to look at other Power 5 ADs who aren't highly paid but know how to raise money and pick a football coach.

Way too big of a jump for Whitman, though some day he might be great here. Wax-that ship already sailed.
 
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EJ33

San Francisco
If we can't get Rick George and if Mike Small's not interested, I think you've got to look at other Power 5 ADs who aren't highly paid but know how to raise money and pick a football coach. Two that come to mind are Ian McCaw of Baylor, and Ross Bjork of Ole Miss. As of a year ago, both were making considerably less than Mike Thomas.

Mike Small is a great coach, can raise money, and is an excellent speaker. He's one of the all time great Illini (as is his dad Bill Small). Yet, it's a huge leap for him to be an AD.

One reason I like George is that he's a football guy who has tons of other relevant experience. The AD's job basically boils down to the football program - if you hire a great football coach almost nothing else matters as the football program carries the whole department.

I like your ideas on McCaw and Bjork - great things happening in football at both programs. I'm sure there are other Power 5 guys that fit this profile. That's who we should be thinking about beyond George instead of lower level U of I guys.
 
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I hate to pee on the parade here but the way George worded that statement is not promising at all. He positioned his comments with the University of Colorado specifically. It's highly unlikely that he then leave and diss an entire university. He has too much class for that.

He could have easily deflected the question without mentioning how great CU is but he didn't. If he knew there was a chance of leaving he wouldn't have done that.

When Roy Williams was at Kansas and asked about the vacant UNC job, he never mentioned how great Kansas was. He talked about his kids and even said he could give a Damn about UNC.

The fact that George mentioned CU specifically speaks volumes.


"But I just think it's way too early to be talking about anything right now in that regard"

That's an odd way to end your statement if you're not interested.
 
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I don't think the issue here is whether George would consider coming home, but rather do we have anybody in this University with the competence to bring him home. I'm pretty skeptical about that.



I sure hope this poster isn't on the search committee, but I think these comments must be how people around U of I often think.



Comparing Whitman (AD at a D-3 school) and Shawn Wax (never been an AD) to George is like comparing a major leaguer to a single A player. George is operating at a completely different level than these guys or Tom Michael. There is no comparison.


If we bring George home, it'll be thanks to Khan.
 
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