dgcrow
- Kelso, WA
What will the new date be when the end of the month comes and goes?
Reminds me of the permanent sign I spotted once in a bar: "Free drinks tomorrow".
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Reminds me of the permanent sign I spotted once in a bar: "Free drinks tomorrow".
Your entire argument for the Cubit hire being terrible is presenting the best case scenario as a retrospective foregone conclusion.
We just signed the only class Cubit is likely to assemble here, and it really wasn't any worse than what Babers put together at his new job. I know we are all upset, but it's just not the scorched earth, end of the world scenario you are making it out to be.
I wondered if the PU gig opening mid-next year and Whitman being from W. Lafayette would become a thing. Not gonna lose sleep over it.
Did PU recruit him out of HS?
That would be Illinois. Let Whitman go to Purdue and then listen to the same people going no big deal whine and cry when he turns out he knows what he is doing. I wold be fine with Whitman and am surprised it is not done yet. How many people are there that have actually run a P5 athletic department that are available that were not fired at their previous one? Guessing not many and a guy that has led two departments is more than qualified to move up and run our !!!! program. Should be done already.
Aaron
- Chicago
AD's don't want to inherit a coach who is disposable because he is low cost and low commitment, they want to inherit a coach who is disposable because the school is willing to pony up if it doesn't work out.
In other words: The big boy move was to hire the best we could--Babers, Brohm, whoever, put them on a respectable 1.5-2 million dollar contract and simply give the new AD the resources to pull the plug.
We handicapped our football program because we were not willing to risk paying a real buyout. You think that's attractive to potential candidates?
mattcoldagelli
- The Transfer Portal with Do Not Contact Tag
No, my argument is predicated on the fact that we made a terrible decision (offering Cubit the job when he plainly failed to earn it) and compounded it with another inexplicably terrible decision of a mini-contract. Either of those on their own would have been very bad. Doing them in tandem is literally unprecedented in major college football.
I'm glad that Dino Babers' class at Syracuse has managed to negate this for you to the point where you think it will actually make our situation more attractive to a potential AD. I'm also glad that you are in the extreme, extreme minority with that opinion, because it is crazy.
It was mentioned on this forum long ago back in November and linked. Sturdy had several sources that stated Babers was interested in the UI gig...this is with an interim Chancellor and an I term AD.
Well, we let Jim Phillips get away and now he's regarded as one of the top 5 ADs in college sports. We let Rick George get away and he's on his way to being a top AD. We let Craig Tiley get away and now he may no longer be interested.
All three at one time would have killed for the AD job here - now they are on to bigger and better things. I fear that Whitman is next. I'm fine at this point just wrapping it up and hiring Whitman.
is this the dagger to the heart of the program everyone is afraid of?????:huh::huh:Et tu, Brute?
Sharp minds, cutting straight to the point, no?
Joel Goodson
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We did? When?
Let Phillips get away? He was never "ours" to let go.
Ditto with George.
George wanted the job when Thomas got it. He never got past a phone interview.
I think it was terrible idea to hire Cubit. But, I think your resoning is the exact opposite of what they would feel. They would like to inherit a disposable coach.
Aaron
- Chicago
And what would have made Babers, Brohm, Fleck, or whoever NOT disposable? Because we are afraid they might stink for two years and would have to be bought out for a few million bucks instead of Cubit's $250,000? That risk is simply part of playing to win at this level.
It was completely within the administration's power to both:
1. Give our program an actual chance at improvement by hiring someone else and giving them a respectable contract.
AND
2. Ensure prospective AD candidates would have the resources and permission to make a change.
Accomplishing both of these things was not mutually exclusive, out of reach, or even all that difficult.
icengineer
- Southern Illinois
Per Dan's link, according to Tupper, Tiley is off the board...:tsk:
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Scalia or U of I AD, which gets filled 1st? Go.
Was he ever really on it?
hooraybeer
- Pittsburgh, PA
what a disaster. everything related to the UofI and especially UoI athletics is just !!!! right now. there is no other way to put it. the only thing that has gone right in the past year was getting Dee back in the program. Starting with the Dudek injury, scandals everywhere, the football season, firing of TB, then MT, then the weird hiring of Cubit, DP dismissal, recruiting misses out the !!! that go on to have stellar seasons/careers elsewhere, all the basketball injuries leading to a wasted season, and now just a blown horrible unorganized AD search on top of the administrative problems at the school itself... why UofI? i get a sinking feeling anytime i think about anything illini related.
where's the tylenol?
where's the tylenol?
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Joel Goodson
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Assuming Tiley's out, let's get on with it and get Whitman.
All three wanted the job at one point in time. Two expressed interest the last time it was open and those two also called it their dream job.
Tupper never said Tiley was out for sure.
For the love of Mike, What a Charlie Foxtrot this is at every, single, turn.
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