2017 Coaching Carousel

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Agreed on Lousville. 10 FFS and 3 banners definitely warrants that status.

What really warrants that status are the passionate fans (and deep pocketed boosters) filling the best college basketball facility in the nation.

It's not what you've done, it's the resources you have to sustain that level.
 
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I'd say as of now, Michigan State is the only Tier 2/3 program who could arguably join IU on Tier 1.

Ohio State money makes that a top flight gig and possibly better than ours, even if they are football-first (which every school nationally would prefer to be as-is)

Right. There was a rumor that if (read: when) the Big 12 turned them down that UConn would consider joining the Big East and let their football program fend for itself elsewhere. It hasn't happened yet.

That would be great for UConn and I think it would be great for the Big East.

We're in an age when conference matters so much, much more than it used to. The Big East has great teams on the floor, I love watching those games. But I'm not sure how long they can sustain at that level with some of their best programs being Butler and Xavier and Creighton, and having themselves being essentially blackballed by ESPN with their exclusive Fox contract.

Rothstein is still throwing around that rumor at the beginning, but as some on twitter have mentioned, not sure why UConn would even have football if they did that
 
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Oops my bad. Still UConn's history I think is too recent to ignore.

3 NC's( '04,011 & '014) plus another FF appearance in '09 would have to put UConn in the top 10. Certainly, their winning % of .716 since 2000 says so.
 
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Didn't understand why the BIG didn't take UConn instead of Rutgers. Anyone know the thinking?
 
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UofI08

Chicago
Didn't understand why the BIG didn't take UConn instead of Rutgers. Anyone know the thinking?

New York and a more substantial football program. Probably a lot more with regards to size of the school, alumni, research, academics but I don't know the details.
 
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Didn't understand why the BIG didn't take UConn instead of Rutgers. Anyone know the thinking?

Rutgers is a bigger school in a bigger (and closer) state with more alums in NYC and the taller midget of a football program.

Basketball was not a consideration. Basketball is never a consideration, that's why UConn is caught in purgatory in the first place.
 
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It will be important we get this settled soon after the season. Would not surprise me to see Indiana, Ohio St, and Kansas looking for new coaches. Indiana has not had sustainable success, plagued by injuries and players going pro early the last 5 years. Ohio St seems to have lost momentum with recruiting and success. Self has had major discipline and legal issues this year. Between Illinois and Missouri I believe we have the advantage, especially when you compare SEC BB vs BTN BB. Kentucky is the first and only name most folks think of with SEC BB.
 
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It will be important we get this settled soon after the season. Would not surprise me to see Indiana, Ohio St, and Kansas looking for new coaches. Indiana has not had sustainable success, plagued by injuries and players going pro early the last 5 years. Ohio St seems to have lost momentum with recruiting and success. Self has had major discipline and legal issues this year. Between Illinois and Missouri I believe we have the advantage, especially when you compare SEC BB vs BTN BB. Kentucky is the first and only name most folks think of with SEC BB.

...what? Self isn't going anywhere, don't be absurd.

Crean is a wildcard, he could be gone, but not sure on that one, it could honestly go either way and people wouldn't be surprised. That said, we'll likely pursue different targets IMO.

Matta probably sticks for one more season, IMO.

Lastly, there is no doubt our gig is better than Missouri's. I do question how Florida doesn't come to mind when you think about SEC hoops, though :confused:
 
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...what? Self isn't going anywhere, don't be absurd.

Crean is a wildcard, he could be gone, but not sure on that one, it could honestly go either way and people wouldn't be surprised. That said, we'll likely pursue different targets IMO.

Matta probably sticks for one more season, IMO.

Lastly, there is no doubt our gig is better than Missouri's. I do question how Florida doesn't come to mind when you think about SEC hoops, though :confused:

I think that "Kansas" was supposed to be "Missouri".
 
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It will be important we get this settled soon after the season. Would not surprise me to see Indiana, Ohio St, and Kansas looking for new coaches. Indiana has not had sustainable success, plagued by injuries and players going pro early the last 5 years. Ohio St seems to have lost momentum with recruiting and success. Self has had major discipline and legal issues this year. Between Illinois and Missouri I believe we have the advantage, especially when you compare SEC BB vs BTN BB. Kentucky is the first and only name most folks think of with SEC BB.

I think that "Kansas" was supposed to be "Missouri".

See bolded, I think he actually meant KU in light of the recent stuff with LaGerald Vick, namely.
 
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UofIChE06

Pittsburgh
...what? Self isn't going anywhere, don't be absurd.

Crean is a wildcard, he could be gone, but not sure on that one, it could honestly go either way and people wouldn't be surprised. That said, we'll likely pursue different targets IMO.

Matta probably sticks for one more season, IMO.

Lastly, there is no doubt our gig is better than Missouri's. I do question how Florida doesn't come to mind when you think about SEC hoops, though :confused:

None of that matters anyways. The only potential opening that should affect the UI opening is NCSt. If they take Archie it is likely Cuonzo or Keatts at UI. If UI takes Keatts there is a decent chance Mizzou takes Cuonzo. Not sure if he would take it as it is a true dumpster fire but he is from the area so who knows. That would make for some interesting border war games especially if CM gets Mizzou turned around quicker than Keatts at UI. Worst case scenario is if UI picks Keatts over Martin and isn't successful while Martin is.
 
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None of that matters anyways. The only potential opening that should affect the UI opening is NCSt. If they take Archie it is likely Cuonzo or Keatts at UI. If UI takes Keatts there is a decent chance Mizzou takes Cuonzo. Not sure if he would take it as it is a true dumpster fire but he is from the area so who knows. That would make for some interesting border war games especially if CM gets Mizzou turned around quicker than Keatts at UI. Worst case scenario is if UI picks Keatts over Martin and isn't successful while Martin is.
I would think the top 3 in Whitman's mind would be: Monty Williams, Cuonzo Martin, and Kevin Keatts. There are some tweets out there suggesting that Whitman has talked to some high-level boosters about the search, and names like Fred Hoiberg and Tony Bennett (still) should be included. I don't buy Fred or Tony, so I'm sticking with one of the first three until a new name appears in a reputable media site.
 
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None of that matters anyways. The only potential opening that should affect the UI opening is NCSt. If they take Archie it is likely Cuonzo or Keatts at UI. If UI takes Keatts there is a decent chance Mizzou takes Cuonzo. Not sure if he would take it as it is a true dumpster fire but he is from the area so who knows. That would make for some interesting border war games especially if CM gets Mizzou turned around quicker than Keatts at UI. Worst case scenario is if UI picks Keatts over Martin and isn't successful while Martin is.

Part of me has concerns about Georgetown and Keatts should Georgetown decide to realize they stink. But jobs opening above us on the chain is always an issue. Especially with KU and IU, because they can open jobs we wouldn't ever expect to be opened. I don't want to worry about the ripple effect.
 
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Part of me has concerns about Georgetown and Keatts should Georgetown decide to realize they stink. But jobs opening above us on the chain is always an issue. Especially with KU and IU, because they can open jobs we wouldn't ever expect to be opened. I don't want to worry about the ripple effect.

LSU could also be sneaky.

The idea that Kansas would fire Bill Self is not worth our time, but IU firing Crean is definitely a concern.
 
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Is all this Monty Williams stuff coming up because I brought him up among a list of NBA coaches? Because I was really just spitballing.

If I have the power to add people to the list by sheer force of will, I'm pushing Tim Jankovich's name into the conversation damnit!
 
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See bolded, I think he actually meant KU in light of the recent stuff with LaGerald Vick, namely.

Oh, I skipped right over that. I still think my answer makes more sense. :)

Is all this Monty Williams stuff coming up because I brought him up among a list of NBA coaches? Because I was really just spitballing.

No

If I have the power to add people to the list by sheer force of will, I'm pushing Tim Jankovich's name into the conversation damnit!

Still no.
 
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Is all this Monty Williams stuff coming up because I brought him up among a list of NBA coaches? Because I was really just spitballing.

If I have the power to add people to the list by sheer force of will, I'm pushing Tim Jankovich's name into the conversation damnit!
Like I said, I've seen tweets mentioning him, and I've had asked a friend who covers the Illini about him. He said he's heard Williams' name mentioned as "someone of interest to Josh." No clue how serious that is, but his name keeps popping up in multiple places.
 
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Is all this Monty Williams stuff coming up because I brought him up among a list of NBA coaches? Because I was really just spitballing.

If I have the power to add people to the list by sheer force of will, I'm pushing Tim Jankovich's name into the conversation damnit!

Hey man, I've championed Monty, I'm a believer. There's potential there! If people want a Lovie-esque hire, that's it.

And it's too early for Jankovich if you ask me. But I did add him to my spreadsheet on your sheer force of will, if that makes you feel better.
 
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Hey man, I've championed Monty, I'm a believer. There's potential there! If people want a Lovie-esque hire, that's it.

And it's too early for Jankovich if you ask me. But I did add him to my spreadsheet on your sheer force of will, if that makes you feel better.
Williams is intriguing, but I wonder if he'd give up his NBA gig to recruit high-schoolers. Hmm. Jankovich is kinda old (57) to land his first Power 5 job. JMHO.
 
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