I mean, to be a cardiologist AND a DJ, you have to know a lot.
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I mean, to be a cardiologist AND a DJ, you have to know a lot.
For some reason Keatts gets a pass on all his short comings and the supporters have only one positive retort, which is look what he did in the CAA. He's done great in the CAA. If VCU never left the CAA you would have never heard of Kevin Keatts.
I do really hope our fan base roots for him to succeed in the future, and doesn't make him the butt of all jokes the way Beckman is. Beckman clearly deserves it because he was an incompetent, illiterate buffoon, but Groce is somebody who could actually become a decent to good coach down the road for a high mid major or a mid level P5 school.
As for mid v. low major - is there an accepted definition?
Oops, I forgot Loyola moved.
As for mid v. low major - is there an accepted definition? To me, any league that is a default one bid league is low major. IMO, if you don't get a second bid at least once every 5 years or so, you are low major. If there is a real definition, I'd be interested to know.
For some reason Keatts gets a pass on all his short comings and the supporters have only one positive retort, which is look what he did in the CAA. He's done great in the CAA. If VCU never left the CAA you would have never heard of Kevin Keatts.
Good choice.:thumb:
Not really.
But it doesn't matter what terms you use, the CAA and leagues like the MEAC and the NEC are clearly not the same thing. Nor is the CAA like the Atlantic 10 on the other end.
It's a unicorn of a resume.
But the hype is bizarre IMO.
For some reason Keatts gets a pass on all his short comings and the supporters have only one positive retort, which is look what he did in the CAA. He's done great in the CAA. If VCU never left the CAA you would have never heard of Kevin Keatts.
I agree with this sentiment. I like him, and will be happy with the hire if it's him. But the hype is bizarre IMO. He's a strong candidate, but not the level that some think.
The hype seems to be strongest among weirdos like me who have spent years parsing the differences between resumes like Groce's and resumes like Keatts'.
He's like a create-a-coach.
Yeah, I agree to that. But if we're going to group 32 conferences into just a couple of labels, conferences within a group will differ greatly. But this is irrelevant to the discussion at hand I suppose.
This is such a mischaracterization of the discussion. Nobody denies that, in a perfect world, you'd have a few more years of work to look at on Keatts. But his existing body of work is so impressive that you're not going to get that chance. Somebody is gonna give him a P5 shot in about a month, it'll be us or it won't be.
This is such a mischaracterization of the discussion. Nobody denies that, in a perfect world, you'd have a few more years of work to look at on Keatts. But his existing body of work is so impressive that you're not going to get that chance. Somebody is gonna give him a P5 shot in about a month, it'll be us or it won't be.
Kind of like when everyone jumped on the TeamShield nonsense .
For some reason Keatts gets a pass on all his short comings and the supporters have only one positive retort, which is look what he did in the CAA. He's done great in the CAA. If VCU never left the CAA you would have never heard of Kevin Keatts.
It's not a mischaracterization of anything when the word unicorn is being thrown around. You may not be denying the concerns and I generally agree with you on here, but others are painting him as a slam dunk. That's not true at all.
It's not a mischaracterization of anything when the word unicorn is being thrown around. You may not be denying the concerns and I generally agree with you on here, but others are painting him as a slam dunk. That's not true at all.
Fun fact - In VCU's last 3 years in the CAA with Shaka Smart as their head coach they were never conference regular season champions. They finished T-5, 4 , and 2. Also, per Kenpom this year VCU is #50 and UNC Wilmington is #59, so not really a big gap there.
That's because the depth of candidates that people are hoping are available, might not be all that much better than the guy we have, with the established relationships and quality incoming class.
Unless they are committed to opening up the checkbook and making a significant investment, change when the timing isn't right is a worse option that changing for the sake of change. It's a four to five year commitment once you pull the trigger. It needs to be the right guy and if that means waiting another year for that guy to become available.....So be it.
I'm not implying certainty of success by saying "unicorn", I'm just pointing out the uniqueness of the qualifications.
This. Keatts coached a high school power (college player factory Hargrave) for a long time with great success, cut his teeth under Pitino for 3+years, took over UNC Wilmington and immediately blew the doors off.
Barring landing an unexpected grand slam of candidate, if the argument boils down to Keatts or Cuonzo Martin, I'm in on the Keatts camp. Guy wins game.. period.
It's not a mischaracterization of anything when the word unicorn is being thrown around.