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What's the big deal with keeping Walker?
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Don't disagree with any of that. But the Horizon league is kind of crap now that Butler's moved onward and upward. You don't think he was poised to go on a bit of a run in that league with Caris Levert coming in? Not intended to defend Groce, but if the best thing we can say about Drew is he's better than Groce but not as good as Weber that's faint praise in deed.
Not by that big of a margin. 65-19 in the Horizon is pretty damn impressive.
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I'm thinking I could enjoy Buzz Wiliams prowling the Assembly Hall sidelines.
I think there's a long line of coaches that failed to beat up on teams in the Big Ten... Drew may be better than Groce, I just don't see him as somebody who's going to put us back in the top 25. If that's who it ends up being I hope I'm wrong.
If I'm creating "insiders", have I become everything I have despised!?
If so, barely. Absolutely the same tier.
The MAC is a bad basketball conference. This isn't football.
Average conference rank when Bryce Drew was at Valpo:13.4
Average conference rank when Groce was at Ohio: 17
This I agree.....
Whitman isn't going to embarrass us by chasing candidates we can't get. I'm sure he has spent the last few weeks gauging candidates interest......if we are going after Tier 2 candidates.....it's because Tier 1 wasn't intersted.
Recruiting is a 2 way street......we can want all kinds of coaches......but they need to want us back.
Whitman isn't going to embarrass us by chasing candidates we can't get. I'm sure he has spent the last few weeks gauging candidates interest......if we are going after Tier 2 candidates.....it's because Tier 1 wasn't intersted.
Recruiting is a 2 way street......we can want all kinds of coaches......but they need to want us back.
Honest to god I do not.
In a word Tilmon. Plus any hope of competing against Cuonzo in St. Louis/Metro East area
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Ahhh yes. In a page out of the recruiting thread, a totally reasonable period of quiet can only mean something ominous.
I am a big Keatts fan for many other reasons, but if a coach's success at Illinois depends on keeping an assistant, then that coach should not be the HC at Illinois.
I do not think Keatts' success depends on Walker.
I think Keatts will put together a staff that will recruit at a high level here with or without Walker.
I cannot say I have the same confidence about some of the other candidates being mentioned.
I think Mizzou's move changes everything if Whitman can't close on the top 2-3 so-called "big splashes". Need to be able to counter Martin's recruiting prowess in his own backyard with a young, energetic, dynamic recruiter who will be a player in Chicago/Midwest. He will need a talented staff with hopefully Walker staying on - and it would help if he can coach a little bit. That's why I think,you close with Keatts ASAP. I think you consider Bryce Drew because of his energy and Midwest connections only if Keatts says no. I am still intrigued by Musselman but the Martin move forces us into a different direction IMO.
The only things that have changed since Whitman's press conference are:
1) Martin to Mizzou
2) Indiana job opening
That's it. Literally everything else is message board nonsense. Whitman may have had his guy since the press conference - waiting for said guy's season to end. Or maybe not.
I'm loving all the reading here - but we have learned nothing. Nothing has changed.
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I think too much is made of assistant coaches. I recall all of us getting totally wrapped up in Jerrance Howard and Tracy Webster back in the Weber era, and what came of that? If you have a head coach who can recruit, you don't need to depend on your assistants to do it. If you need to depend on your assistants to get good recruits, you hired the wrong head coach. As for Tillmon, that's a short-term issue.
Ive said before and I'll say it again - I think he'd be a great pick.
I thought they were referring to Bryce from Vanderbilt. I'm confused
Ah but it's about what they could become. And I value Keatts time at Hargrave Academy and his reputation as a recruiter at Louisville. I think he has a higher ceiling. I don't see Drew getting us back to competing for conference titles. I think Keatts might. 100% rational, of course not.
Compare their 1st three seasons and where there programs started. I still take Keatts.
You honestly believe JW should change his hiring approach to counter the fact that Cuonzo Martin will be coaching a school in a different conference for the next three years? I disagree. A lot.
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Are we really that scared about losing recruiting battles in East St. Louis? This is the first I'm hearing about this fertile recruiting ground. Guys, no one assistant coach is that critical. There's a good chance our new head coach will NOT be keeping Walker. And that's okay.
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What do you want Drew to do? He beat up on the Horizon League at Valpo. He beat Florida 3 times this year and add South Carolina and Iowa State among other tournament teams. He competed with Kentucky.
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Here are my picks in order of preference:
1. JW's #1 pick.
2. JW's #2 pick.
3. JW's #3 pick.
4. JW's #4 pick.
5. JW's #5 pick.
6. JW's #6 pick.
1. JW's #1 pick.
2. JW's #2 pick.
3. JW's #3 pick.
4. JW's #4 pick.
5. JW's #5 pick.
6. JW's #6 pick.
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