Illini Coaching Staff

#608      
The plan was already shaky because we were relying on only one. And in another hypothetical universe, Boynton would have been the backup plan.

This is a total mess. We are no longer importing OSU's success. We're just painting over the John Groce era.

There's Stephen F, West Virginia, K St and South Carolina success to draw from as well. It isn't the end of the world
 
#609      

UofI08

Chicago
Yeah, this isn't the greatest news in the world but the guy has been coaching since 1988. I'm sure he's got plenty of other guys he knows and trusts.
 
#610      
#notideal. Evans is regarded as an ace recruiter. Better hope we can pull a rabbit out of the hat here.
 
#611      
It will be ok. Thankfully, I have from very good sources that Coach Underwood knows how to run his own offense and what players fit his system.
 
#614      
I mean, no amount of money fixes this. Our new head coach is completely on an island. How is this possible? How are we this unlucky?

I do not know Evans but have seen him in AAU events. I had heard good things about him, so he would have been a good hire, but let's not overreact. There are plenty of excellent assistant coaches and serving under the head coach in previous job is an overrated attribute IMO.
 
#616      
It's sticks and stems from those eras, making a mockery of our massive budget, or it's building it out of whole cloth.

I would choose the former, frankly. Can we even get Stephen Gentry at this point? Surely he's got a spot on Boynton's bench.

Erik Pastrana, Andy Assaley or we could just wait and see. Underwood was the overwhelmingly important one. Evans is not Matt Campbell
 
#618      
Guh.

That's tough. No sugarcoating it.

I've always thought of basketball assistants as mainly recruiters, vs football assistants who drive major aspects of the resulting offense and defensive schemes.

If Underwoods's Xs and Os were what drove the results at OSU and SA, assistant hires aren't going to undue him. He probably had to give Walker a lions share of the cash and the main assistant title - leaving him vulnerable to OSU on Evans. OSU likely had a ton of cash left over after elevating an assistant to head coach and not having to compete on the open markets for their HC.
 
#619      
One man does not a system install.

I can tell you right now we're looking at a compromised mish-mash of Groceism and Underwoodism on offense next year.

Are you a coach now? Pretty definitive. I agree with the others, Good night take a breath. :)
 
#620      
One man does not a system install.

I can tell you right now we're looking at a compromised mish-mash of Groceism and Underwoodism on offense next year.

No, actually, you can't tell me that with 100% certainty. But even if that is the case, it is going to be okay. We are not doomed for eternity because we missed on one assistant coach. It isn't ideal, but it isn't the end of the world. Coach Underwood was not able to run his defense at OK State last year and they were still fine. Being able to adapt is a good quality to have in a head coach.
 
#621      

foby

Bonnaroo Land
Look up. The sky is still there.
 
#622      
If Underwoods's Xs and Os were what drove the results at OSU and SA, assistant hires aren't going to undue him. He probably had to give Walker a lions share of the cash and the main assistant title - leaving him vulnerable to OSU on Evans. OSU likely had a ton of cash left over after elevating an assistant to head coach and not having to compete on the open markets for their HC.

Also, the OSU AD probably wanted to be able to show he's retaining a nice chunk of the remaining "successful" staff as for some people this would help to combat how poorly he handled retaining Underwood - from an OSU fan perspective. Whether the assistants will be successful without Underwood, as well as whether Underwood will be successful without those particular assistants will remain to be seen for a couple years. I honestly hope both work out well.
 
#624      
Holy geez this is a lot of panic over assistant coaches. It isn't like the only coaches available are ones not currently attached to a team. This isn't free agency. Underwood isn't new to the profession. He can go get assistants and everything will fine. Seriously.. people just have to find something to panic about.
 
#625      

mattcoldagelli

The Transfer Portal
I've always thought of basketball assistants as mainly recruiters, vs football assistants who drive major aspects of the resulting offense and defensive schemes.

Agree with the caveat that it depends on who the HC is. I'll be polite and just leave it at the fact that we can currently afford to go more in that direction than we could the last five years.

There's definitely something to be said for familiar faces, especially when installing new systems, culture, etc. But as has been stated, I don't think the list of people who have worked with Brad Underwood and would like to again starts and ends with the guys on the Oklahoma State bench last year.