AP ranks all-time top 100 basketball teams based on weekly polls

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That helps settle the debate. #11 All Time!


Oklahoma State #34
Kansas State #44

for those that might find that interesting.
 
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kaptain80

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People ask about the so-called blue blood programs. Those first six are fine examples.
 
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Bogey99

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kaptain80 said:
People ask about the so-called blue blood programs. Those first six are fine examples.
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First five are the true blue bloods. There's a gap to the IU, UofL, AZ, Syracuse level, both on this list and most other metrics, IMO.
 
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Fighter of the Nightman

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RE: The Blue Bloods, this is where I have always stood: If you're going to include Indiana, you include Louisville. Period. If you want to cut the Blue Bloods off at UK, UNC, KU, Duke and UCLA (all, coincidentally, blue! :D), that's fine. However, if you're going to lump Indiana in with them based on their historical success (also fine!), then you need to throw in Louisville, IMO.
 
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ChiefIlliniwek

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I like it. It does go on to say the AP doesn't put any rankings out after the NCAA tournament, so National Championships aren't counted in here, which would obviously give Michigan State a little bump as well as Oklahoma State, but obviously it shows Illinois is a program with a very successful history.

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Bogey99

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Fighter of the Nightman said:
RE: The Blue Bloods, this is where I have always stood: If you're going to include Indiana, you include Louisville. Period. If you want to cut the Blue Bloods off at UK, UNC, KU, Duke and UCLA (all, coincidentally, blue! :D), that's fine. However, if you're going to lump Indiana in with them based on their historical success (also fine!), then you need to throw in Louisville, IMO.
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Agreed.

Note that on this list, #6 Indiana is closer in points to #11 Illinois than they are #5 Kansas.
 
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The most surprising thing to me is that Louisville has been ranked #1 only twice.
 
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ChiefIlliniwek said:
I like it. It does go on to say the AP doesn't put any rankings out after the NCAA tournament, so National Championships aren't counted in here, which would obviously give Michigan State a little bump as well as Oklahoma State, but obviously it shows Illinois is a program with a very successful history.

:chief:
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RE: Oklahoma State, how many of their NCAA championships were back when the NIT carried more weight? Was that actually ever a thing. I could probably have just asked google, but i'm asking all of you instead.
 
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kcib8130

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UCONN has won 4 national titles in the last 20 years. That's astonishing they can't get more recognition, but I know this poll is not based on that.

1999, 2004, 2011, 2014. No back to back's, and basically a completely different set of players for each title. I just think that's unbelievable.
 
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Fighter of the Nightman

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kcib8130 said:
UCONN has won 4 national titles in the last 20 years. That's astonishing they can't get more recognition, but I know this poll is not based on that.

1999, 2004, 2011, 2014. No back to back's, and basically a completely different set of players for each title. I just think that's unbelievable.
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It is. :( Meanwhile, we have put together success in several different decades, had three teams that had near misses (1942, 1989, 2005), again all in different eras, and we haven't been able to nab one. :tsk:
 
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kaptain80 said:
People ask about the so-called blue blood programs. Those first six are fine examples.
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Illinois is a Blue Blood. It's blood might not be as blue as some, but it is indeed blue. Considering the many years and numerous major NCAA basketball programs since the beginning of time, anyone in the upper Sweet Sixteen has claim on that. Now the task is to move up the list one by one. This will be fun.
 
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Illinois is a Blue Blood.
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Nah, wouldn't even put us in the borderline blue blood ranks (IU, Cuse, Louisville, and Zona). Consistency is something that defines a blue blood, not the roller coaster that is UI basketball. Really, the only school in the top 5 I think has had an up and down program is UCLA, and that's only because of the recently downward trend, and they are still spitting out 3 seeds. lucky for them they had the best 12ish year run a program has ever and will ever had.
 
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Fighter of the Nightman said:
RE: The Blue Bloods, this is where I have always stood: If you're going to include Indiana, you include Louisville. Period. If you want to cut the Blue Bloods off at UK, UNC, KU, Duke and UCLA (all, coincidentally, blue! :D), that's fine. However, if you're going to lump Indiana in with them based on their historical success (also fine!), then you need to throw in Louisville, IMO.
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I think what hurts UL compared to IU is the #1 spot. Only hitting the pinnacle twice in history makes it almost impossible to be considered on the same tier as the blues. With a strong decade, IU could get back up to that top tier that they are losing contact with. That's the argument with K... will Duke be the same when he is gone. UNC, UK, and KU are really the only three that can claim to have the success spread over multiple staffs at the highest level. UCLA is close
 
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Damn this is a really fun ranking. I think this can be a helpful talking/recruiting point when approaching potential candidates. Recruits are teenagers and teenagers tend to be very short-sighted. That said, they kind of have to be short-sighted because they only have 4 years to get to the league. So, while this is fun in confirming how good of a basketball program we have been, we still have to win, and #wewillwin (I hope).

Wait, this comment might be better suited in the recruiting thread. :eek:
 
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Bogey99

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UofIChE06 said:
I think what hurts UL compared to IU is the #1 spot. Only hitting the pinnacle twice in history makes it almost impossible to be considered on the same tier as the blues. With a strong decade, IU could get back up to that top tier that they are losing contact with. That's the argument with K... will Duke be the same when he is gone. UNC, UK, and KU are really the only three that can claim to have the success spread over multiple staffs at the highest level. UCLA is close
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One reason Louisville never hit #1 with all of their great teams in the '80's was because Denny Crum always had a tough non-conference schedule. I wouldn't hold that against them.

Duke was runner-up in 1978 before Coach K, so it's not like they are a one-coach program.