Illiini
- In the land of the Nittany Lion
You'd have your choice of beach houses.
Yeah, but would they be on a beach?
You'd have your choice of beach houses.
I'm a realistic UofI fan, and have been since I attended my first game in Memorial Stadium in 1980. I've seen the good, the bad and the ugly. Smith is a downstater, he doesn't have handlers, he hasn't been deep into the AAU swamp, we aren't up against Kansas and their "boosters" (and all is quiet on the UK front). This is a recruitment directly against MSU for a kid that grew up an Illini fan that lives 2.5 hours from campus. I'll take our chances
It is ever thus.
We're probably not getting him. And it's not the end of the world. The end of the world is not understanding why we're not getting him, and not orienting ourselves in a direction towards getting the future him's.
I hadn't really bothered to watch much of Smith's highlight footage in the past, probably because I assumed IL had no shot. I just watched some on YouTube. Good lord, the kid's a beast. If he's #75 then this is the best class of all time. He looks like UI soph/junior Deron Williams in high school. And now I'll be really disappointed if he goes elsewhere. Wish I'd decided to not bother looking at the videos. Kid is a baller.
Bingo - possible water shed moment, although I will argue that was the day JW hired BU.I'm stating the wildly obvious, but the trajectory of the program could significantly change on Wednesday.
With the caveat that every recruit is a gamble in terms of what they actually produce on the court, the narrative win - "Brad Underwood stares down Izzo, Calipari and Matta to keep Illinois Mr. Basketball home" - is tough to put a price on, and we'd get it and its benefits immediately.
Sucks to be you guys! I get to find out at 4 PM!
...wait...
Yes, he´s really good. If he commits to us, I think that he and Frazier are our starting backcourt before the end of their FR years.
And it is a lot easier over here on the eyes then tigerboard.... that site is making my vision go bad by the day. Not sure who runs it but I am assuming its some old white guy that doesn't like change.
Oh I think you are going to see those three on the court a large amount of the time, especially if Frankie Jr needs to redshirt (don't know where he is in his rehab, but just remember when healthy he is as good as any guard in this year's state of IL class). JCL is a wild card to me and DJW. Those two have a lot to prove in order to earn playing time IMO. For as great of a shooter that JCL is supposed to be he was as freaking cold as ice last year....now I hear the BU system will be good for him so now is time for JCL to up his game and prove his doubters wrong or he will be riding the pine.I could easily see Lucas, Frazier and Smith. Unless Tilmon has another change of heart or Underwood picks up some other big along the way, we're going to be small. May as well get the best ball handlers and creators out there at the same time and just try to outscore people. Convince Leron he's a 4 and have him only worry about crashing the boards and cleaning up the garbage. It could either be a disaster or really fun.
I usually don't post on forums. I have just been reading these types of forums for a very long time. (10+ years) You guys are pretty entertaining here and I enjoy your guys post. Very active. I love adult meltdowns on forum post. (not trolling) Makes my workday go by much faster. And it is a lot easier over here on the eyes then tigerboard.... that site is making my vision go bad by the day. Not sure who runs it but I am assuming its some old white guy that doesn't like change.
I just wanted to say I hope you guys get your wish with Mark Smith. Would make the Bragging Rights game that much better. We have a couple good guards coming in and I can not wait to see high level guards play against each other and compete every year in St.Louis. I hope both coach hires work out and we both are consistently in the top 25 so the games we play against each other help us both, win or lose. I understand the dislike between the two fan bases but out here in Kansas City most Mizzou fans don't dislike Illinois at all. Not sure about St.Louis but most of my friends just wish that both teams were consistently good with good players.
As far as Jeremiah Tilmon. I would not be sad if he didn't end up at Mizzou. I am no "insider" what so ever but the guy is very wishy-washy from what I have been following. I understand you have people pulling you multiple directions but at what point do you just grow up and make your own life decisions. I understand he is only 18 but he is about to be at a major university making his own life decisions everyday. Most of my life experiences with people who are like him end up being more of a problem then a good thing. (went through the recruiting process my junior and senior years with baseball and most the guys that I played with that waited until the last minute or couldn't decide almost always ended up making the wrong decision for themselves) But like I said I am just some normal dude.
Also the last few years at Mizzou have been miserable, especially when college basketball is one of your favorite sports to watch. I was in the stands watching the past 3 years :frustrated:
Just glad both programs look like they are trending upwards. Lets hope it continues.
I usually don't post on forums. I have just been reading these types of forums for a very long time. (10+ years) You guys are pretty entertaining here and I enjoy your guys post. Very active. I love adult meltdowns on forum post. (not trolling) Makes my workday go by much faster. And it is a lot easier over here on the eyes then tigerboard.... that site is making my vision go bad by the day. Not sure who runs it but I am assuming its some old white guy that doesn't like change.
I may drive to Denver that day to hear the announcement earlier....
Anybody on Midway Island? Probably already know the decision there if I did the time zone thingy right.
I'm stating the wildly obvious, but the trajectory of the program could significantly change on Wednesday.
With the caveat that every recruit is a gamble in terms of what they actually produce on the court, the narrative win - "Brad Underwood stares down Izzo, Calipari and Matta to keep Illinois Mr. Basketball home" - is tough to put a price on, and we'd get it and its benefits immediately.
Still feeling good about it?
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Probably a handful of live steaming/facebook live/live radio options, they will be posted leading up to the announcement on Wednesday.I'm assuming there will be a live stream somewhere?
I'm a little dubious of that whole "momentum" concept, especially given that Smith, good though he is, is not a 5-star, MCDAA, NBA draft prospect type recruit.
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I usually don't post on forums. I have just been reading these types of forums for a very long time. (10+ years) You guys are pretty entertaining here and I enjoy your guys post. Very active. I love adult meltdowns on forum post. (not trolling) Makes my workday go by much faster. And it is a lot easier over here on the eyes then tigerboard.... that site is making my vision go bad by the day. Not sure who runs it but I am assuming its some old white guy that doesn't like change.
I just wanted to say I hope you guys get your wish with Mark Smith. Would make the Bragging Rights game that much better. We have a couple good guards coming in and I can not wait to see high level guards play against each other and compete every year in St.Louis. I hope both coach hires work out and we both are consistently in the top 25 so the games we play against each other help us both, win or lose. I understand the dislike between the two fan bases but out here in Kansas City most Mizzou fans don't dislike Illinois at all. Not sure about St.Louis but most of my friends just wish that both teams were consistently good with good players.
As far as Jeremiah Tilmon. I would not be sad if he didn't end up at Mizzou. I am no "insider" what so ever but the guy is very wishy-washy from what I have been following. I understand you have people pulling you multiple directions but at what point do you just grow up and make your own life decisions. I understand he is only 18 but he is about to be at a major university making his own life decisions everyday. Most of my life experiences with people who are like him end up being more of a problem then a good thing. (went through the recruiting process my junior and senior years with baseball and most the guys that I played with that waited until the last minute or couldn't decide almost always ended up making the wrong decision for themselves) But like I said I am just some normal dude.
Also the last few years at Mizzou have been miserable, especially when college basketball is one of your favorite sports to watch. I was in the stands watching the past 3 years :frustrated:
Just glad both programs look like they are trending upwards. Lets hope it continues.
Even for you this is overly negative. There is certainly nothing out there that would indicate this is true, quite the contrary