Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (May-June 2018)

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CoalCity

St Paul, MN
Actually, Zagoria tweeted last Thursday that Calloo has an OV scheduled to Illinois this week. Weeks not over, right?

Since we dont have any OV's left (not even for Francis) I find that report highly unlikely. Calloo was driving around trying to get UV's and had Illinois on his list but was either told not to come or decided not to come. His stock has steadily been dropping, hes reported to have motor issues (at the very least), hes not what this program needs or wants.
 
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Dren1

Glenview, IL
This. It always stinks when you lose a really good player in your own backyard, especially when they turn out to be really good players elsewhere. Fairly recent obvious ones being Brian Cardinal, LewJack, KBD, Rayvonte (the first time, but at least he ended up at UI), Iguodala, and now possibly Okoro. At least we've gotten our fair share to lessen the sting over the years some (Meyers, Cookie, the Peoria boys), but man it just never feels good when you can't convince a local boy to stay home (or you didn't really recruit them hard in the first place and they turn out to be a stud). Definitely not as many Illinois players on the roster in recent years as their used to be, but maybe that's okay for now. Cast a wider net, and then when we string together some winning seasons again (and it WILL happen) all the local boys will be pining to don the Orange and Blue again. :cool:
While it is true that Okoro is in our backyard, I would not exactly categorize him as a "local boy" as he only moved here from Nigeria in 2014 (as has been pointed out in the past). I agree that it will sting if he goes to Oregon, but I think this situation is different that the others you cite.
 
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Sadly it sounds like Stemke is all over this. I am glad the staff has opened up national recruiting because the Illini cannot land local talent. If the Illini get a visit they are good, no visit, hello Oregon. :confused:

It's such a small world now. I don't think the old recruiting rules (staying close to home) apply.
 
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Since we dont have any OV's left (not even for Francis) I find that report highly unlikely. Calloo was driving around trying to get UV's and had Illinois on his list but was either told not to come or decided not to come. His stock has steadily been dropping, hes reported to have motor issues (at the very least), hes not what this program needs or wants.

Yep, driving around with motor issues is not what anyone needs or wants, especially him.
 
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Peoria Illini

Peoria, IL
If memory serves, Iguodala was not recruited as hard as his Lanphier teammate Richard McBride. Iguodala was a late bloomer in high school (I was in high school in Springfield at the time Iguodala was at Lanphier), and McBride was the focus. I could be wrong, but I do not even think Illinois offered him a scholarship, which, if true, is on us, not him. He first committed to Arkansas with Nolan Richardson, and when he left, he ended up at Arizona. So please do some research into that; I graduated from Sacred Heart Griffin the year before Andre graduated from Lanphier, and was on campus as a freshman while he was playing in the IHSA State Tourney.

There is still a scintilla of hope remaining for Okoro, so I am not ready to throw in the reality towel just yet. However, if I do not hear anything in the next 3-4 hours, as a betting man, I would say that the percentage chance of Okoro coming here is less than 1%.

I think Self was the one that passed on Iggy, IIRC.
 
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It's such a small world now. I don't think the old recruiting rules (staying close to home) apply.

I agree that players don't put as much stock in being close to home as they once did and missing out on Okoro does sting but I have a friend who is close to EJ Liddell and it sounds like his interest is staying close to home. EJ would definitely make missing on Okoro worth it.

:illinois:
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Finke say his scholarship wasn't renewed or something to that effect? And had to transfer?

It said something to that effect, or at least had people thinking that is what it was, based on his wording, but that doesn't seem to make a lot of sense.

It's been stated that it was worded a certain way to make it easier on himself when transferring.
 
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sacraig

The desert
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Finke say his scholarship wasn't renewed or something to that effect? And had to transfer?

He said that, but it also seems to be the case that he wanted to leave and the staff needed to do that to clear the way for his transfer.
 
#435      
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Finke say his scholarship wasn't renewed or something to that effect? And had to transfer?

He said that, and it has been completely misunderstood. Since he was already in a graduate program at the University of Illinois, he was only eligible as a grad transfer if his scholarship was not renewed. So, when he told BU he wanted to transfer, his scholarship was subsequently not renewed. Finke laid all that out in an interview that aired on Werner's show. By not renewing his scholarship for his 5th year, BU allowed him to transfer. Finke also stated that BU tried to convince him to stay/wanted him on the team next year. His tweeting that his scholarship was not renewed was more for prospective schools to understand that we was indeed an immediately eligible player, not a shot at Illinois.
 
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If Okoro doesn't want to be at Illinois, so be it. All the pieces were in place for him at Illinois, so if that wasn't enough he must not want to be in Champagne.
 
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He said that, and it has been completely misunderstood. Since he was already in a graduate program at the University of Illinois, he was only eligible as a grad transfer if his scholarship was not renewed. So, when he told BU he wanted to transfer, his scholarship was subsequently not renewed. Finke laid all that out in an interview that aired on Werner's show. By not renewing his scholarship for his 5th year, BU allowed him to transfer. Finke also stated that BU tried to convince him to stay/wanted him on the team next year. His tweeting that his scholarship was not renewed was more for prospective schools to understand that we was indeed an immediately eligible player, not a shot at Illinois.

Had not heard that interview or that side of it. Thanks.
 
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sacraig

The desert
If Okoro doesn't want to be at Illinois, so be it. All the pieces were in place for him at Illinois, so if that wasn't enough he must not want to be in Champagne.

I am not sure I would agree that all the pieces were in place for him here. We've missed the tourney for years because of the lack of said pieces, and while I like some of the pieces we have coming in, they are freshman and hardly guarantees.

So really, he has a better chance (based on recent history) of being in "champagne" by playing basketball in Eugene than he does in Champaign.
 
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If Okoro doesn't want to be at Illinois, so be it. All the pieces were in place for him at Illinois, so if that wasn't enough he must not want to be in Champagne.

This is my take. Everything was there for him to be extremely successful in C-U.

Time to move on....
 
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jmilt7

Waukegan
Yep, winning programs mean everything to some recruits, and why not?

Bu then there are some like Ayo - who could have gone just about anywhere - and Trent and Tevian and the other Illini.

Why have they been attracted and committed to Illinois? Playing time right off the bat? The allure of central Illinois?

Don't know. If Okoro goes, so be it.

P.S. I live in DeKalb, not quite a garden spot, but it's home.

Yeah, I don't understand why some very good players will still go to a school that hasn't done particularly well the last few years. Another example is LSU. Supposedly, Wade has recruited very well there this year and I think last. So I guess there is more than just a winning program, albeit, that certainly helps.
 
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See in pod cast notes, they talk about Okoro on Werner show today. Anyone listen and have some crib notes?
 
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I am not sure I would agree that all the pieces were in place for him here. We've missed the tourney for years because of the lack of said pieces, and while I like some of the pieces we have coming in, they are freshman and hardly guarantees.

So really, he has a better chance (based on recent history) of being in "champagne" by playing basketball in Eugene than he does in Champaign.

I mean, based on recent history, Illinois "wouldn't be in the Final Four in 2005" back in 1999. Players commit based on a vision of success all the time. This is going to be a bummer to miss out on.
 
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Illini_1979

Oregon
Good grief, maybe the dude likes trees? Maybe he drove over to the Oregon coast? Maybe he likes ducks? Maybe the Eugene campus blew him away?

I couldn't wait to GTFO of Central Illinois when I was 19.

If I would have had a full scholly to a cool campus in another state I would not be a UI alum. I would have been out like the fat kid in dodgeball.


(but I still love you :illinois::illinois::illinois:)

Well, it took me 45 years to find my way to Oregon from Illinois (via California) and I'm never leaving. Can't fault the young man if that was part of his decision process.

I'm a proud UofI alum but Oregon is my home now.
 
#447      
I did some digging, and from what I found, it does indeed look like that we (Self) did not offer Iggy a scholarship. As I mentioned in a previous post, Iggy was a late bloomer; he really did not start to develop until his junior year. If memory serves, he did not make the varsity squad until his junior year.

Rich McBride was all the rage in the Central State 8, and rightfully so. However, I am wondering if you can fault Self for passing on Iggy, as he was still growing in high school, had yet to master the control of his new frame and freakish athleticism, and was always playing second fiddle to McBride at Lanphier. However, once he blew up, he really blew up and became the player and NBA first-rounder that we have seen over the years.

In re: Okoro: the Twitter has been very quiet today, almost too quiet; I am not sure if that is a bad thing or a good thing. While many people do not like Ryan Evan, he has not said a word; and Illinois Hoops, which reports everything, no matter the program so long as it pertains to a player in whom we have shown interest, has been eerily quiet. I hope silence is a good thing, but I am not going going to hold my breath and am stamping a 1% on the likelihood that we get a visit from Sir Francis of Okoro. What a pity. I was thinking of a lineup with Okoro and Kipper in the frontcourt and a backcourt of Trent, Ayo, and Tevian. That would have been a powerful starting five with Da'Monte and Andres grabbing their respective shares of minutes.
I could be wrong, but I also seem to remember from back in the day, that Iggy really didn't have any interest in Illinois. He was totally on board with Nolan Richardson. When he was fired, still no interest in Illinois, preferring AZ as his second choice.
 
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