Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (June 2019)

[Dan]

Welcome to the Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

rbachhuber's Scholarship Grid
Updated 6/30/2019

Recruiting Calendar (ncaa.org)

 

[illinitiger]

Official Visit Breakdown
2018 Recruits (13 OVs)
2017/09/01 - Colin Castleton
2017/09/01 - Landers Nolley
2017/09/15 - George Conditt
2017/09/29 - Amadou Sow
2017/10/07 - Lukas Kisunas
2017/10/10 - Elias Valtonen
2017/10/10 - Ayo Dosunmu
2017/10/20 - Talen Horton-Tucker
2017/12/14 - Flo Thamba
2018/02/10 - Luis Rodriguez
2018/03/09 - Samba Kane
2018/03/09 - Tevian Jones
2018/04/13 - Maurice Calloo

2019 Recruits (9 OVs)
2018/09/06 - Anthony Walker
2018/09/21 - EJ Lidell
2018/09/21 - Terrence Shannon
2018/09/21 - Oscar Tshiebwe
2018/10/05 - Quincy Guerrier
2018/10/11 - Jason Jitoboh
2018/10/19 - Drew Timme
2018/12/28 - Kofi Cockburn
2019/04/12 - Oliver Robinson Nkamhoua

I've got a count of 22 so far in the 2 year period. So if I'm not mistaken we have 2 OVs to give with 2 more opening up on 1 September. Unless it's not rolling and all 13 OVs used in 2018 open up right away at the start of the 2020 season. I can't remember what the verdict was on that when it was discussed.

I just quickly pulled the visits from 247, their info may not be complete, so if you can think of anyone that's missed, please let me know and I'll update. I think it would be nice if info like this was sticked at the top of recruiting threads or maybe in a thread of its own like the scholarship grid. Not knowing if we've got OVs to give recruits seems to be a constant concern here.

Great list...interesting that we are 0/8 for September OVs...and our take rate declined significantly in past year. I believe we have a better sell this year even though our record declined in 18-19.

 

[TCTORNADO]

Official Visit Breakdown
2018 Recruits (13 OVs)
2017/09/01 - Colin Castleton
2017/09/01 - Landers Nolley
2017/09/15 - George Conditt
2017/09/29 - Amadou Sow
2017/10/07 - Lukas Kisunas
2017/10/10 - Elias Valtonen
2017/10/10 - Ayo Dosunmu
2017/10/20 - Talen Horton-Tucker
2017/12/14 - Flo Thamba
2018/02/10 - Luis Rodriguez
2018/03/09 - Samba Kane
2018/03/09 - Tevian Jones
2018/04/13 - Maurice Calloo

2019 Recruits (9 OVs)
2018/09/06 - Anthony Walker
2018/09/21 - EJ Lidell
2018/09/21 - Terrence Shannon
2018/09/21 - Oscar Tshiebwe
2018/10/05 - Quincy Guerrier
2018/10/11 - Jason Jitoboh
2018/10/19 - Drew Timme
2018/12/28 - Kofi Cockburn
2019/04/12 - Oliver Robinson Nkamhoua

I've got a count of 22 so far in the 2 year period. So if I'm not mistaken we have 2 OVs to give with 2 more opening up on 1 September. Unless it's not rolling and all 13 OVs used in 2018 open up right away at the start of the 2020 season. I can't remember what the verdict was on that when it was discussed.

I just quickly pulled the visits from 247, their info may not be complete, so if you can think of anyone that's missed, please let me know and I'll update. I think it would be nice if info like this was sticked at the top of recruiting threads or maybe in a thread of its own like the scholarship grid. Not knowing if we've got OVs to give recruits seems to be a constant concern here.

Antwan January OV- January 9th
TJ Holyfield OV-May 3rd.

 

[Deleted member 3875]

Whole lot of strikeouts.

 

[BMoreIllini]

2018 Recruits (13 OVs)
2017/09/01 - Colin Castleton
2017/09/01 - Landers Nolley
2017/09/15 - George Conditt
2017/09/29 - Amadou Sow
2017/10/07 - Lukas Kisunas
2017/10/10 - Elias Valtonen
2017/10/10 - Ayo Dosunmu
2017/10/20 - Talen Horton-Tucker
2017/12/14 - Flo Thamba
2018/02/10 - Luis Rodriguez
2018/03/09 - Samba Kane
2018/03/09 - Tevian Jones
2018/04/13 - Maurice Calloo

2019 Recruits (11 OVs)
2018/09/06 - Anthony Walker
2018/09/21 - EJ Lidell
2018/09/21 - Terrence Shannon
2018/09/21 - Oscar Tshiebwe
2018/10/05 - Quincy Guerrier
2018/10/11 - Jason Jitoboh
2018/10/19 - Drew Timme
2018/12/28 - Kofi Cockburn
2019/01/09 - Antwan January
2019/04/12 - Oliver Robinson Nkamhoua
2019/05/03 - TJ Holyfield

So a count of 24, if grad transfers count as OVs, which I'm assuming they do. So no available OVs until September 1st, if they go on a 2 year rotating basis.

 

[Joel Goodson]

Whole lot of strikeouts.

Lookin' up at Mendoza?

 

[Chukwuwumba]

2018 Recruits (13 OVs)
2017/09/01 - Colin Castleton
2017/09/01 - Landers Nolley
2017/09/15 - George Conditt
2017/09/29 - Amadou Sow
2017/10/07 - Lukas Kisunas
2017/10/10 - Elias Valtonen
2017/10/10 - Ayo Dosunmu
2017/10/20 - Talen Horton-Tucker
2017/12/14 - Flo Thamba
2018/02/10 - Luis Rodriguez
2018/03/09 - Samba Kane
2018/03/09 - Tevian Jones
2018/04/13 - Maurice Calloo

2019 Recruits (11 OVs)
2018/09/06 - Anthony Walker
2018/09/21 - EJ Lidell
2018/09/21 - Terrence Shannon
2018/09/21 - Oscar Tshiebwe
2018/10/05 - Quincy Guerrier
2018/10/11 - Jason Jitoboh
2018/10/19 - Drew Timme
2018/12/28 - Kofi Cockburn
2019/01/09 - Antwan January
2019/04/12 - Oliver Robinson Nkamhoua
2019/05/03 - TJ Holyfield

So a count of 24, if grad transfers count as OVs, which I'm assuming they do. So no available OVs until September 1st, if they go on a 2 year rotating basis.

No Giorgi OV? Didn’t know. The gift that keeps on giving. Guessing the same for griffin, ADLr, Feliz???

 

[sacraig]

Lookin' up at Mendoza?

 

[FeelYourPaign]

2018 Recruits (13 OVs)
2017/09/01 - Colin Castleton
2017/09/01 - Landers Nolley
2017/09/15 - George Conditt
2017/09/29 - Amadou Sow
2017/10/07 - Lukas Kisunas
2017/10/10 - Elias Valtonen
2017/10/10 - Ayo Dosunmu
2017/10/20 - Talen Horton-Tucker
2017/12/14 - Flo Thamba
2018/02/10 - Luis Rodriguez
2018/03/09 - Samba Kane
2018/03/09 - Tevian Jones
2018/04/13 - Maurice Calloo

2019 Recruits (11 OVs)
2018/09/06 - Anthony Walker
2018/09/21 - EJ Lidell
2018/09/21 - Terrence Shannon
2018/09/21 - Oscar Tshiebwe
2018/10/05 - Quincy Guerrier
2018/10/11 - Jason Jitoboh
2018/10/19 - Drew Timme
2018/12/28 - Kofi Cockburn
2019/01/09 - Antwan January
2019/04/12 - Oliver Robinson Nkamhoua
2019/05/03 - TJ Holyfield

So a count of 24, if grad transfers count as OVs, which I'm assuming they do. So no available OVs until September 1st, if they go on a 2 year rotating basis.

I don't think that the grad transfers count as OV's. I think the rules are just for high school recruiting.

 

[Indy Illini Fan]

Arizona most recent offer for Adam Miller.

 

[TCTORNADO]

I don't think that the grad transfers count as OV's. I think the rules are just for high school recruiting.

Nah, I think it's just that the grad transfers don't get the big Illini cookie.

 

[nwebb1]

Arizona most recent offer for Adam Miller.

Expect some BB to come into play after Peach Jam.

We’re not just going to beat them on the court, but also in this recruitment!

 

[TCTORNADO]

No Giorgi OV? Didn’t know. The gift that keeps on giving. Guessing the same for griffin, ADLr, Feliz???

Quick search on Giorgi yields an OV on March 26, 2018.

 

[OrangeNTude]

Woldetensae OV

 

[TCTORNADO]

Whole lot of strikeouts.

Is 1 for 13 OV's a good closer's rate?

 

[BananaShampoo]

Is 1 for 13 OV's a good closer's rate?

Groce was probably like 1 for 3. Too bad he couldn't take advantage.

 

[Calvin]

So a count of 24, if grad transfers count as OVs, which I'm assuming they do. So no available OVs until September 1st, if they go on a 2 year rotating basis.

I couldn't' find the source document, but I looked this up before and IIRC it was not rolling. It refreshes at the end of August for the 2 year period.

 

[illiniinhoosierland]

I couldn't' find the source document, but I looked this up before and IIRC it was not rolling. It refreshes at the end of August for the 2 year period.

Per ESPN it looks like last year the NCAA moved from 24 to 28 official visits allowed per rolling 2-year period:

"A student-athlete can visit a particular campus only once per year, and Division I schools will now be permitted to pay for 28 official visits over a rolling, two-year period (34 visits for service academies.) The previous totals were 24 official visits for Division I programs and 30 for service academies."

 

[Chukwuwumba]

Quick search on Giorgi yields an OV on March 26, 2018.

Thanks.
Alan griffin and Feliz were on ov same weekend...April 6th 2018.

 

[illiniinhoosierland]

Per ESPN it looks like last year the NCAA moved from 24 to 28 official visits allowed per rolling 2-year period:

"A student-athlete can visit a particular campus only once per year, and Division I schools will now be permitted to pay for 28 official visits over a rolling, two-year period (34 visits for service academies.) The previous totals were 24 official visits for Division I programs and 30 for service academies."

Edit: The summary at this link (interesting and helpful, to the extent random internet search results can be relied upon) indicates that the calendar runs August 1-July 31.

 

[BMoreIllini]

2018 Recruits (16 OVs)
2017/09/01 - Colin Castleton
2017/09/01 - Landers Nolley
2017/09/15 - George Conditt
2017/09/29 - Amadou Sow
2017/10/07 - Lukas Kisunas
2017/10/10 - Elias Valtonen
2017/10/10 - Ayo Dosunmu
2017/10/20 - Talen Horton-Tucker
2017/12/14 - Flo Thamba
2018/02/10 - Luis Rodriguez
2018/03/09 - Samba Kane
2018/03/09 - Tevian Jones
2018/03/26 - Giorgi Bezhanishvili
2018/04/06 - Alan Griffin
2018/04/06 - Andres Feliz
2018/04/13 - Maurice Calloo

2019 Recruits (12 OVs)
2018/09/06 - Anthony Walker
2018/09/21 - EJ Lidell
2018/09/21 - Terrence Shannon
2018/09/21 - Oscar Tshiebwe
2018/10/05 - Quincy Guerrier
2018/10/11 - Jason Jitoboh
2018/10/19 - Drew Timme
2018/12/28 - Kofi Cockburn
2019/01/09 - Antwan January
2019/04/12 - Oliver Robinson Nkamhoua
2019/04/19 - Tomas Woldetensae
2019/05/03 - TJ Holyfield

Updated to add Giorgi, AG, Feliz, Woldetensae.

So a count of 28, assuming grad transfer OVs count against the total. So no available OVs until August 1st, when OVs open up per the link illiniinhoosierland posted.

 

[BWilson25]

Wow this thread needs some action...

 

[Calvin]

Per ESPN it looks like last year the NCAA moved from 24 to 28 official visits allowed per rolling 2-year period:

"A student-athlete can visit a particular campus only once per year, and Division I schools will now be permitted to pay for 28 official visits over a rolling, two-year period (34 visits for service academies.) The previous totals were 24 official visits for Division I programs and 30 for service academies."

Rolling is being used differently in the ESPN article than the question that was asked about in this thread. Folks were asking if the limit rolled off with each OV, meaning they wanted to know if we had a new OV available whenerver it had been 2 years from a previous OV. That is not the case, which is what my answer pertained to.

So for clarity: "Rolling" is the 2 year period that ends July 31, not a rolling 2 year period from the date you reached the limit. In other words, once we've used all our OVs, we have to wait for Aug 1, not the oldest OV to lapse.

 

[Truffaut]

So, do we have 16 OVs on Aug 1, or 28? Or some other number entirely?

 

[illiniinhoosierland]

So, do we have 16 OVs on Aug 1, or 28? Or some other number entirely?

We could use up to 16 OV's on August 1, 2019 , but presumably will spread those 16 around between August 1, 2019 and July 31, 2020). On August 1, 2020 we would accumulate another 12, plus still have available however many remain from the 16 we accumulate August 1, 2019.