Sounds like Whitman can sell a furnace to the devil?I trust Whitman in both his ability to sell the program and analyze how talented a HC is... I don't think we get into a Beckman situation based off of Whitman's talent to sell.
Sounds like Whitman can sell a furnace to the devil?I trust Whitman in both his ability to sell the program and analyze how talented a HC is... I don't think we get into a Beckman situation based off of Whitman's talent to sell.
That seems to be his focus given that that's where he's been for his entire career as a football coach, which consists of one season as a QB coach and FOUR GAMES as an offensive coordinator?
The thing I love so much about this is that if Dak Prescott throws a couple interceptions, Kellen Moore goes from "risky, outside the box hire for Illinois" to a joke by November.
It is true, by the way, that Sean McVay's success in a copycat league has made every baby-faced white guy with a handful of passing game ideas suddenly an NFL head coaching candidate. I think the way the college game ought to look at that trend is pretty well summed up by the fact that Kliff Kingsbury, the man who managed to go 5-7 with Patrick Mahomes throwing for 5,000 yards and 41 TD's, got fired by Texas Tech after amassing a 19-35 record in the Big XII, and was immediately hired as a head coach in the NFL.
There's being open minded, and then there's just being a sports radio meatball. We've drifted into the latter.
Looks like I'm the only one aboard the Billy Napier train.
Top 3 (in no order)
1. Billy Napier
2. Seth Littrell
3. Lance Leipold
Looks like Fickell has, what, 5 sons -so if he takes the Lovie approach he'll bring all the assistants needed....Leipold seems to be fading fast. Littrell hasn't had the best of starts but he ran into surprisingly good Cal and SMU teams. He'll likely right the ship shortly. I'm starting to warm to the idea that Illinois could convince Fickell to take the job. My new top 3 (in no order).
1. Luke Fickell
2. Seth Littrell
3. Billy Napier
Looks like Fickell has, what, 5 sons -so if he takes the Lovie approach he'll bring all the assistants needed....
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or a ketchup popsicle to a women in white glovesSounds like Whitman can sell a furnace to the devil?![]()
For me, Moore seems to be more of an exercise of what's the depth of coaches who (1) could be successful as Illinois' coach, and (2) would be interested if offered the job. For me, Moore falls under the could be successful, probably not interested. Even if he was interested, not sure he'd be high up on my interest level because, as you mentioned, his coaching experience is fairly thin, but as I mentioned, I feel like he's focused on sticking to the NFL because his current skillset seems to be prioritized by the NFL in the current times.
You probably can't show me more than a handful of better recruiters. There's point A.
For those wanting to hire Chip Long, explain how he's ahead of every other candidate for you. He did great things (in one year) as Memphis OC. He helped right the ship at Notre Dame. But that one year before he arrived looks like an outlier to me. They were frequently around the 25th best offense in the country before he arrived, then 2016 hits and they regress. Digging through those games, their scoring offense seems strong except two games: NC State (they tried to play through Hurricane Matthew? both teams struggle to score), and Stanford (18th best defense that year). Since then, Long has steadied Notre Dame's offense back to their pre-2016 performance. Maybe this does enough to convince you that he's a top candidate (and he's not successful or experienced enough to be out of Illinois' grasp like a Dave Aranda?).
Three recent examples of a new coach bounce at a downtrodden program for us to look to:
In 2011 James Franklin took over a Vandy team that had been 2-10 in each of the previous two years, and went 6-7 in Year 1.
In 2013 Steve Addazio took over Boston College that were 2-10 and 4-8 in the previous two years and went 7-6 in Year 1.
In 2017 Jeff Brohm took over Purdue that were 3-9 and 2-10 in the previous two years and went 7-6 in Year 1.
We're next.
NC State (they tried to play through Hurricane Matthew? both teams struggle to score)
Than Kellen Moore, never before a college coach in his life? What?
Are you guys pulling some sort of Truman Show prank on me here?
Discussion I quoted was related to Chip Long.
I think you quoted the wrong one
Long's definitely a guy who can get players though.
Did someone really bring up the kellen Moore as a head coaching candidate? Is someone trolling us?Than Kellen Moore, never before a college coach in his life? What?
Are you guys pulling some sort of Truman Show prank on me here?
Did someone really bring up the kellen Moore as a head coaching candidate? Is someone trolling us?
Thats not saying much...Obviously not a viable option but it's not the worst idea I've seen floated on this board either.
Leipold seems to be fading fast. Littrell hasn't had the best of starts but he ran into surprisingly good Cal and SMU teams. He'll likely right the ship shortly. I'm starting to warm to the idea that Illinois could convince Fickell to take the job. My new top 3 (in no order).
1. Luke Fickell
2. Seth Littrell
3. Billy Napier
I did that. I made a list of about 10 guys I liked for a coach. He wasn’t on the list but I said really outside the box hire. Apologies, as it has seemed the Moore talk got outta hand.Did someone really bring up the kellen Moore as a head coaching candidate? Is someone trolling us?
Not trying to be mean but the guy has been a coordinator for 5 games and has looked good against dumpster teams (Giants, Redskins, and Dolphins). Need to have patience with these guys. Not saying I don't think eventually it wouldnt happen, but after 5 games we should pump the brakes.I did that. I made a list of about 10 guys I liked for a coach. He wasn’t on the list but I said really outside the box hire. Apologies, as it has seemed the Moore talk got outta hand.
I’m warming up to Fickell. He checks off a lot of boxes.