NCAA Issues/Scandals/Corruption

#26      
Miller was on tape too. It’s been awhile since I’ve followed this, but I remember the feds were still investigating Nike which had a broader scope that included the EYBL circuit. I also recall feds asking NCAA to wait until their trials conclude before investigating sanctions. I found this quote from Big12 commissioner:

Bowlsby’s gospel comments came shortly after he said “we don’t have any more information that you have” when asked about the trial that has included references to Big 12 schools Kansas and Oklahoma State.

“The NCAA has intentionally stayed out of the way in deference to the federal process and that’s the way it ought to be,” he said.


I’m assuming Miller/Roy/K/Izzo/Cal days will come. They might not suffer any real consequences, but we shall see.
 
#31      
The entire UNC scandal with classes being fake is a dismal failure of the NCAA and collegiate athletics. I understand that the classes chosen by players are easy and take mostly no effort to pass, but this is beyond the pale. IF THE NCAA is not going to pay athletes and now not even require classes, amateur sports (collegiate level) is an utter failure. UNC receiving NO penalty is a travesty.
 
#34      

From that story, here is the best summary of the environment that I've read.
Simple, logical straightforward

"The bottom line is, there is simply no way to succeed under the idiotic NCAA system of indentured servitude without paying players. The logic is simple: As of 2018, this is a billion-dollar industry, and profits depend on success, and success depends on having the best players in the revenue-generating sports, football and basketball. Since you can't pay those players the normal way, due to the NCAA's use of amateurism, you have to compete for them somehow, and you know what the best way to lure players is, in the absence of clean money? Dirty money! It's inevitable—it's the system the NCAA set up. "
 
#38      
Needed some of those NC classes to improve progress. Lots of credits and not a drain on athletes time.

And the NCAA folks need a sacrificial lamb. Gotta look like you're doing something to earn those compliance salaries.
 
#39      
Should we be worried that Stephen F Austin just got the death penalty for 2013-2019 in which Underwood was the coach during part of that time?
 
#40      

sacraig

The desert
Should we be worried that Stephen F Austin just got the death penalty for 2013-2019 in which Underwood was the coach during part of that time?

First, they didn't get the death penalty. The death penalty is when a sport is banned from competing at all for some number of years. They got a postseason ban.

Second, this affected three sports. That indicates the issue was with the athletic department, not with any one particular program or coach. Underwood is fine.
 
#41      
Should we be worried that Stephen F Austin just got the death penalty for 2013-2019 in which Underwood was the coach during part of that time?
It was related to an administrative error in the academic certification process that resulted in miscalculated APR scores. Not an issue with Underwood. Source
 
#42      
Everyone cheats. I’m a diehard Illini fan always will be but if you think a few Illini players haven’t been financially taken care of over the years you are smoking rope. 🤷‍♂️ Btw I’m not implicating BU directly. It’s a 6 degrees of separation deal. Happens with every top program - the key is just don’t get caught.
 
#43      
Everyone cheats. I’m a diehard Illini fan always will be but if you think a few Illini players haven’t been financially taken care of over the years you are smoking rope. 🤷‍♂️ Btw I’m not implicating BU directly. It’s a 6 degrees of separation deal. Happens with every top program - the key is just don’t get caught.
Doesn’t matter if you get caught if you are NC, Kentucky, Duke, Kansas. Free pass for them.
 
#45      
Doesn’t matter if you get caught if you are NC, Kentucky, Duke, Kansas. Free pass for them.

A great cheater doesn't just do a good job cheating --they make sure they own some police, are friends with the district attorney, and help the judge get appointed/elected. The way these institutions are set up, you probably only need one helper to stay out of trouble, but having multiple backstops is better.

They also make friends with the press. How do you think Duke has such a clean perception with a mountain of evidence against them? To their credit, they do a great job competing in all aspects of managing the program, and understanding how to work the refs, so to speak.
 
#46      
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Of course Nike helps Duke. The top 3 programs that Nike helps are (in no particular order): Duke, Kentucky, Oregon.

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Judge says Zion Williamson must answer questions under oath about improper benefits at Duke

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#47      

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#49      
In two years I predict neither Kansas, nor Duke will be worse off than today. I don't think the coaches are bullet proof, but it'll take something historic to fire Self or K for benefits. I'm talking straight accusations from former players or video of it actually happening. I don't see either of those things happening.