Illinois Football Recruiting Thread

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The invites were sent to all Illinois coaching staffs/AD's. Sunket and his staff got an invite they didn't show. IW was the only in-state school that logged into the zoom meeting. Also Illinois has gotten 1 out of 12 kids from ESTL that they offered. Is that a good return on investment? Sunket can give whatever quote or eyewash that he wants, but actions speak louder then words.
Who are the 12 kids that were offered?
 
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The invites were sent to all Illinois coaching staffs/AD's. Sunket and his staff got an invite they didn't show. IW was the only in-state school that logged into the zoom meeting. Also Illinois has gotten 1 out of 12 kids from ESTL that they offered. Is that a good return on investment? Sunket can give whatever quote or eyewash that he wants, but actions speak louder then words.

How do you know that? I asked and was told they didn't receive an invite.
 
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How do you know that? I asked and was told they didn't receive an invite.

Looks like a pretty open invite to me. Must not have been interested.
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Thank you for posting that now do you have an answer to my comment about that tweet?

Illinois must have been recruiting there pretty well at that time then right?

Not really. He was taking the initial step after having a conversation with Lovie about in state recruiting. After that tweet, he made phone calls to several coaches in the state and MOST stated that Illinois haven't really been to visit them. Also if you read the comments, he took a beating from Mizzou fans for making the tweet. Recruitment didn't pick up for AJ until Keynodo arrived.
 
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Not really. He was taking the initial step after having a conversation with Lovie about in state recruiting. After that tweet, he made phone calls to several coaches in the state and MOST stated that Illinois haven't really been to visit them. Also if you read the comments, he took a beating from Mizzou fans for making the tweet. Recruitment didn't pick up for AJ until Keynodo arrived.

Wait...so...Keynado went hard after AJ? Gill Byrd did not recruit anyone. Lovie must not have been doing much to land ESL kids either if Sunkett was saying all that.
 
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Why would any Coach respond to that? What is the topic? What is the purpose? Also if you really want someone on a call, you are gone to send out a blanket tweet?

Too me it kind of looks like she may be giving in state coaches a chance to open the door and build relationships with our staff. Is that not how you see it?
 
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Wait...so...Keynado went hard after AJ? Gill Byrd did not recruit anyone. Lovie must not have been doing much to land ESL kids either if Sunkett was saying all that.

Gill Byrd came to ESL once. Only once which is why he is struggling at Kentucky or wherever he is.
 
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Lovett, Lewis, Macon, Spraggins, Johnson, Billingsly, Powell, jeff thomas, Estes, Lagrone, James Knight, Stanley Green, Simms, Beckner JR, Watson, Ivy.

So Illinois has gotten 2 out of the last 16 offered prospects from ESTL. To me that is showing that sunkets actions and words aren't coinciding.
 
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Gill Byrd came to ESL once. Only once which is why he is struggling at Kentucky or wherever he is.

Yes he was a horrible hire. Not made for college. I think we can both agree that in state recruiting is a disaster right now and can agree to disagree on the reasons why.
 
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Lovett, Lewis, Macon, Spraggins, Johnson, Billingsly, Powell, jeff thomas, Estes, Lagrone, James Knight, Stanley Green, Simms, Beckner JR, Watson, Ivy.

So Illinois has gotten 2 out of the last 16 offered prospects from ESTL. To me that is showing that sunkets actions and words aren't coinciding.

Macon, Powell, Estes, Logrone, Watson, Ivy were ALL DENIED by the staff! Every last one of them tried to commit to Illinois and was told NO! What part of that don't you understand. Simms chose Mizzou because Illinois hired the OLine coach who didn't want him when he was at Mizzou. Mizzou didn't offer until he left. Billingsly didn't have an offer from Illinois according to CPat.
Illinois refuse to offer Spraggins until 6 other schools offered him at Lindenwood. He chose Tennessee.

During the season, AJ, Powell, Spraggins and Witherspoon all said they would go to Illinois together and try to win on the college level. Illinois said they only wanted AJ. That's when Sunkett made his tweet about Powell. So NO Illinois didn't offer 12 ESL to which only 2 chose Illinois.

When Illinois didn't take Macon, they lost Lovett and Lewis. They are not high on IW as a passer based on High School results. Before you say anything, they are kids and that is their thoughts on it. To me it is what it is but, you will not create a false narrative about things. Sunkett has no issue with Lovie and Illinois. The facts are the facts. All this can be verified by your friends on the staff. Once you do that, then you won't question the knowledge I have.
 
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Macon, Powell, Estes, Logrone, Watson, Ivy were ALL DENIED by the staff! Every last one of them tried to commit to Illinois and was told NO! What part of that don't you understand. Simms chose Mizzou because Illinois hired the OLine coach who didn't want him when he was at Mizzou. Mizzou didn't offer until he left. Billingsly didn't have an offer from Illinois according to CPat.
Illinois refuse to offer Spraggins until 6 other schools offered him at Lindenwood. He chose Tennessee.

During the season, AJ, Powell, Spraggins and Witherspoon all said they would go to Illinois together and try to win on the college level. Illinois said they only wanted AJ. That's when Sunkett made his tweet about Powell. So NO Illinois didn't offer 12 ESL to which only 2 chose Illinois.

When Illinois didn't take Macon, they lost Lovett and Lewis. They are not high on IW as a passer based on High School results. Before you say anything, they are kids and that is their thoughts on it. To me it is what it is but, you will not create a false narrative about things. Sunkett has no issue with Lovie and Illinois. The facts are the facts. All this can be verified by your friends on the staff. Once you do that, then you won't question the knowledge I have.

To be honest i think you are very confused about the way things are working. So in your version of reality Illinois would have had to take 2 mac level players and then that would have landed them AJ? And what sunket did to with powell was wrong. He lost all of his other offers but he didn't tweet at any other coaches then Illinois. Where is sunkets tweet at mizzou for revoking scholarships from his players? Or Purdue? Or Nebraska?
 
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Why would any Coach respond to that? What is the topic? What is the purpose? Also if you really want someone on a call, you are gone to send out a blanket tweet?
I'm with you, Title. There were a number of these zoom calls promoted this month, each featuring a different coach, each without any hint of an agenda. The one @moggs3 posted, which was the last one, was with Miles Smith. How have the other zoom calls been received? I'm surprised they got one attendee. If the staff thinks these are effective invites and @Positive illini fan's indignation is a reflection of the staff's feeling towards the high school coaches, maybe they need to be let go ASAP.
 
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To be honest i think you are very confused about the way things are working. So in your version of reality Illinois would have had to take 2 mac level players and then that would have landed them AJ? And what sunket did to with powell was wrong. He lost all of his other offers but he didn't tweet at any other coaches then Illinois. Where is sunkets tweet at mizzou for revoking scholarships from his players? Or Purdue? Or Nebraska?
Where did I say Sunkett asked for those four players to go to Illinois.
That is something those kids came up with not Coach Sunkett.
Mizzou has never went back on a offer. As a matter fact they have sent two kids to Juco and brought them to Mizzou

AJ, Powell and Spraggs supposedly had offers.
Nebraska and Purdue told Powell defense and he originally said No then tried to come back.

You keep trying to push this narrative of Mac level players which is BS. I heard Bellamy say this before with the Public league Chicago schools.
 
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I'm with you, Title. There were a number of these zoom calls promoted this month, each featuring a different coach, each without any hint of an agenda. The one @moggs3 posted, which was the last one, was with Miles Smith. How have the other zoom calls been received? I'm surprised they got one attendee. If the staff thinks these are effective invites and @Positive illini fan's indignation is a reflection of the staff's feeling towards the high school coaches, maybe they need to be let go ASAP.
Let go of who exactly?
 
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Where did I say Sunkett asked for those four players to go to Illinois.
That is something those kids came up with not Coach Sunkett.
Mizzou has never went back on a offer. As a matter fact they have sent two kids to Juco and brought them to Mizzou

AJ, Powell and Spraggs supposedly had offers.
Nebraska and Purdue told Powell defense and he originally said No then tried to come back.

You keep trying to push this narrative of Mac level players which is BS. I heard Bellamy say this before with the Public league Chicago schools.
Okay so both Purdue and Nebraska rejected Powell. Where is sunkets tweet at them? And Powell and Witherspoon ended up at OVC level programs so yeah I would say they were OVC level players.
 
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Whoever on the staff has the same level of indignation towards Illinois high school coaches who didn't attend the zoom meetings that you have. Maybe it's all of them.
I have no ill will towards Illinois coaches but I’m also realistic. We haven’t been getting top kids in state for a decade. I know many coaches that root for our success and they can’t force kids to stay home. But also I’ve seen coaches who want us to take their scraps while they send their best players out of the state. We need to improve as a program in order to draw kids back. But trust me when I saw we aren’t gonna build a good enough roster with the scraps (25-35 ranked kids) in Illinois. It’s a smart decision to look out of state. These problems aren’t new and they won’t go away quickly. Hiring some guy from Naperville central isn’t gonna all of the sudden make kids wanna stay home.
 
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And Illinois offered an OVC player dude!!
So maybe then Illinois was correct in turning him down? If he ended up there it was his own doing. If he turned down two D1 schools then ended up at Murray state whose fault is that? Should sunket still be tweeting negatively about the very program you claim he supports wholeheartedly?
 
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So maybe then Illinois was correct in turning him down? If he ended up there it was his own doing. If he turned down two D1 schools then ended up at Murray state whose fault is that? Should sunket still be tweeting negatively about the very program you claim he supports wholeheartedly?

It’s Powell’s fault like I said from the Beginning and yes he can tweet negative just like he tweet positive!! Especially If he felt a certain way about it. Hell with the BS I posted plus the refusal to hire Terry Hawthorne he should technically ban Illinois. Yet he still post in support of Lovie but, you keep posting BS pushing a false narrative!!
 
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It’s Powell’s fault like I said from the Beginning and yes he can tweet negative just like he tweet positive!! If he felt a certain way about it. Hell with the BS I posted plus the refusal to hire Terry Hawthorne he should technically ban Illinois. Yet he still post in support of Lovie but, you keep posting BS pushing a false narrative!!
Okay so Powell caused himself to end up at the OVC but yet sunket still tweeted out negativity about the program because why? I’m just saying I’ll wait for sunket to tweet out a pro illini edit featuring players and then I’ll eat my words. Until then I know what is really happening and you can keep believing everything is Illinois fault and sunket walks on water.
 
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