The Illinois Football Coaching Search

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Shock the world candidate: the football equivalent of snatching Brad Underwood from Oklahoma State is grabbing Matt Campbell from Iowa State.

However, I doubt Illinois is Matt's dream job!
That would be 5x the surprise. Underwood moved to an arguably slightly better job. Campbell would be moving to a worse job. It's not happening. If it does, start the Whitman statue process stat.
 
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Ryllini

Lombard
I’m all for Nate. We have an alumnus who just so happens to be an up and coming coach and by all accounts, a pretty good one. The only thing I’d worry about with him is, how does a 30 year establish a staff. Awfully young to have a tree. I truly believe this program needs people who love this university.
 
#256      
JW is smart enough to know that this will be his last hire if it doesn't work out. So the stakes are high. He will work very hard to make sure he gets this right.
 
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Shock the world candidate: the football equivalent of snatching Brad Underwood from Oklahoma State is grabbing Matt Campbell from Iowa State.

However, I doubt Illinois is Matt's dream job!
It would shock the world way more than the Underwood hire did. Campbell is 41 and is on the top of everyone’s list. BU was 52 and though a great hire not at the top of lists. The shocker was he was employed at a P5 school and had a pretty successful year there including going to tourney. I think Doeren (49 and NC St ranked) is more analogous to BU than Campbell.
 
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JJE

Bethalto, IL
JW is smart enough to know that this will be his last hire if it doesn't work out. So the stakes are high. He will work very hard to make sure he gets this right.
I agree. I doubt that he will get a third chance to hire another football coach. My gut tells me he is going to go with as sure fire coach as he can.

I'm not trying to guess too much on who it might be at this point. While it's a lot more difficult hiring a coach to come here for football than basketball, Whitman is very persuasive.
 
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mattcoldagelli

The Transfer Portal
I assume this it not a serious idea. Hiring a 30-year-old who's experience is three years as a Big 12 position coach just because he's a beloved alumnus and a solid recruiter is worse than risky, it's total amateur hour. We'd be ridiculed nationally for that move even worse than the temporary/permanent Cubit fiasco.

Disagree both with the POV stated here and the broader notion that anything we do would get panned worse than the Cubit fiasco (ok, maybe hiring Art Briles).

We’d all like to memory-hole that, I get it, but come on.
 
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illini80

Forgottonia
He better have some great coordinators and connections or it is way too soon.
Too soon, yes probably. Way too soon, I don't think so. 2 years younger than his boss when he got his first HC gig. Depending on how much $ JW gives him to work with I don't think pulling some really good coordinators is far fetched.
 
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illinihawk16

Chicago
Although I like Scheelhaase a lot and I think he's going to be a good coach, I think some of our love for him may be that he's "one of ours" and we want him to do well. I'm curious if any other fanbases with a coaching opening even have him on their radar. Definitely not any other P5 schools and probably not any smaller schools either.
 
#268      
Moving forward, and emphasis on recruiting ILLINOIS HS talent, who or how can anyone assess a 2 year absence of HS football? OK maybe a 2021 spring season.... but really who knows the frosh/sophs in IL who never got to play varsity or mature?
 
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Ryllini

Lombard
Why are we so hung up on an alumnus or someone with ties to Illinois? Just get the best damn coach we possibly can.

Ultimately, I just want to win, so yea, get the best damn coach. To me, I want a connection to the state and university, because I think you will get max effort all the time and succeed and win at all cost with a coach with a rooted connection. Our chances of keeping a coach like that for the long haul, assuming they pan out, is much greater than just some guy ready to get moving to the next.
 
#270      
Why are we so hung up on an alumnus or someone with ties to Illinois? Just get the best damn coach we possibly can.
I think the idea is that we want someone like NW has in Fitz or Ok St. Has in Gundy. You want someone that loves the school and will do anything to do right by the program. Hometown kids typically get given more time to right the ship and the fan base is willing to struggle a lot more because he is one of our guys. There is also the thing that a guy with ties to IL will likely win the HS coaches back after Lovie and Beanie Weanie ruined an already strained relationship.

Basically people want an Illini to be the guy so he can come bring us back to the promise land. Honestly I wouldn't hate either of the Monkens or Scheelhouse (though he needs an experienced staff). Just because the instate buzz would be back again.
 
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Illwinsagain

Cary, IL
Too soon, yes probably. Way too soon, I don't think so. 2 years younger than his boss when he got his first HC gig. Depending on how much $ JW gives him to work with I don't think pulling some really good coordinators is far fetched.
I would love for Nate to come in and succeed. His head coach was an established OC at the MAC school that promoted him. Nate is not an OC and, though we may look like it, we are not in the MAC.
 
#272      
Ultimately, I just want to win, so yea, get the best damn coach. To me, I want a connection to the state and university, because I think you will get max effort all the time and succeed and win at all cost with a coach with a rooted connection. Our chances of keeping a coach like that for the long haul, assuming they pan out, is much greater than just some guy ready to get moving to the next.
The last time we had a coach who moved onto something better was the last time we had consistent success. Bring on someone who wants to springboard after some years of success!
 
#273      
Ultimately, I just want to win, so yea, get the best damn coach. To me, I want a connection to the state and university, because I think you will get max effort all the time and succeed and win at all cost with a coach with a rooted connection. Our chances of keeping a coach like that for the long haul, assuming they pan out, is much greater than just some guy ready to get moving to the next.
i keep seeing luke fickell's name being mentioned on other sites, i just hope we get the right coach!
 
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illinihawk16

Chicago
I think the idea is that we want someone like NW has in Fitz or Ok St. Has in Gundy. You want someone that loves the school and will do anything to do right by the program. Hometown kids typically get given more time to right the ship and the fan base is willing to struggle a lot more because he is one of our guys. There is also the thing that a guy with ties to IL will likely win the HS coaches back after Lovie and Beanie Weanie ruined an already strained relationship.

Basically people want an Illini to be the guy so he can come bring us back to the promise land. Honestly I wouldn't hate either of the Monkens or Scheelhouse (though he needs an experienced staff). Just because the instate buzz would be back again.
To be fair, I think there was some instate buzz after the Lovie hire. It doesn't seem like Lovie made much of an effort to maintain that, but it was there at the start.
 
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illini80

Forgottonia
I would love for Nate to come in and succeed. His head coach was an established OC at the MAC school that promoted him. Nate is not an OC and, though we may look like it, we are not in the MAC.
No, but we can dream....😅
 
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