altenberger22
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Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread (February 2021)
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Like to see Iowa and Wisconsin on the bottom. But I like Collins and I think he is a class guy. He always has nice things to say about ILL players. Like for him to do well but not as well as ILL
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1. Playing time
2. Proof of concept
Playing time- BU plays his freshmen if their good. We have had at least one frosh starter every year under him.
Proof of concept- Can we develop a big for the pros? Kofi has steadily improved over the past two years and is making an NBA case leading NCAA in double doubles. Ayo is a proof of concept for guards and Kofi certainly is one for bigs.
Outside of bringing the HS tourney back to Champaign and taking this team to the Elite 8, we can’t ask for a better recruiting scenario.
exactly how we like it...then...commit and become legit...
Can’t find the no. of centers ranked above Kofi (know Oscar T was one) in his class but know there were several. Looks now to be ranked no. 2 in college and no1 wasn’t in his class. Probably some ranked ahead are pros but still a significant development by Illini coaching staff. That plus what Giorgi has done would seem to be a huge attraction for a recruit.
haasi
- New York
Kofi‘s development has been awesome. I think coach O has a big role in that.
He was number 12 center in his class according to 247. (Some of them are forwards in college but 247 had them as centers coming out of HS)
Ahead of him and now in the nba: wiseman, Stewart, Carey, okongwu
the rest all still in college, none as good as Kofi. Best of the bunch are Timme, TJD, and Tshiebwe IMO.
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Giorgi is not a good example, he has faded in each of the last 2 years.
Would agree on last year but he has played well most of this year particularly lately.
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He has been awful for most of the year especially when on the receiving end of a curbello pass. He missed a ton of bunnies.
however it looks like someone got rid of the kryptonite these last two games
I was so excited for Giorgi after his freshman season. Outside of Kofi taking minutes, the regression is his own doing. I don’t remember a player committing silly fouls so consistently. The frustrating part is they’re not even fouls defending shots in the post- I swear he’s good for at least 2 or 3 silly fouls off the ball every game that just kill momentum.
Because he wasn't comfortable trying to play the stretch 4 last year and still just gets spotty minutes this year making it difficult to get comfortable doing the things he's actually good at doing.
I guess Giorgi's antics, even his freshman year, annoyed people but it's amazing to see our "great fans" act like crap towards him.
altenberger22
- South Carolina
I'm bullish on Giorgi. I think he's faded predominantly because Kofi is significantly impacting his minutes. Giorgi has looked pretty good on the offensive end this season. However, I still don't like his interior defense --- I feel like he gets pushed around too easily.
Still hoping we get two more years of him!
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Couldn't agree more
That's exactly what a fatlard would say. Psh
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Take Kofi out of this equation and Giorgi at the 5 would be an offensive show. Obviously more vulnerable on D....but that dude with 30+ mpg in the lane? 20 ppg.
His sacrifice will not go unnoticed by astute fans.
Imagine how hard it is to get any rhythm and flow now. The sacrifice has obviously paid off for us. I think Giorgi would have been very serviceable at the 5 the last two years with no Kofi. Probably a better defender with all that extra time too.
His sacrifice will not go unnoticed by astute fans.
Imagine how hard it is to get any rhythm and flow now. The sacrifice has obviously paid off for us. I think Giorgi would have been very serviceable at the 5 the last two years with no Kofi. Probably a better defender with all that extra time too.
The biggest role was Kofi himself having the determination to get in the shape he is in.Kofi‘s development has been awesome. I think coach O has a big role in that.
He was number 12 center in his class according to 247. (Some of them are forwards in college but 247 had them as centers coming out of HS)
Ahead of him and now in the nba: wiseman, Stewart, Carey, okongwu
the rest all still in college, none as good as Kofi. Best of the bunch are Timme, TJD, and Tshiebwe IMO.
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I actually wrote a paragraph about Assistant Coach Gentry but deleted it.
but I will write it again... analytics guys does not make head good coaches. These are good at focused on one craft and have tunnel visions.. sort of rain main syndrome.
i have hear people on the spectrum make good data analyst... but I am not sure that translates to head coach
The biggest thing Kofi brings to the team is fear. Before Kofi it was downright embarrassing how easily teams scored at the rim on us.
Once Kofi got here this monster in the middle made teams think twice about driving and big men didn't just aggressively go at us.
That fear will be the biggest loss. We'll need to replace it either with another monster or good team defense.
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The ease at which teams scored at the rim was in part a byproduct of the pressure defense we were playing. Not saying Kofi isn’t better on D or more intimidating than Giorgi, but a little unfair to lay it all at the feet of Giorgi.
Yep we got back-cut to death trying to overplay every pass. We give up very very few dunks with the current roster and scheme. Those first two years it was ugly.
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