I do not think the situations are that similar. Stepping on a player who is down on the ground is different than a hard foul when an opposing player driving to the basket.
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I do not think the situations are that similar. Stepping on a player who is down on the ground is different than a hard foul when an opposing player driving to the basket.
My guess is that Nebraska is in for a ton of whistle's tonight when they breath on Kofi... then it will be back to the regularly scheduled programing.
"Suffered the injury at Michigan State" is factual while leaving out all the relevant information. That's Twitter journalism for ya.
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Both flagrant 2's. So fairly similar. Look, I'm not condoning what Griffin did. But to say Sissoko didn't intend to at least foul hard is just simply wrong. You don't go up with both arms and slam down at a guys head. I don't care where he is on or off the court.
OMG. Serious? Griffins was only worse in terms of “optics”. There was no real force or power behind the step. Stupidity. Could have been risky bu there was not real risk. But it can’t be allowed.
Real, unnecessary risk was involved in this play. Not a basketball play. After the whistle. It’s almost exactly why the rule is there. Kid should be suspended.
I know it's the 2020's and we now have to defend our #takes to the bitter end... but that was not just a hard foul. If Ayo had the ball and was going for a dunk... maybe you could give him a little bit of the benefit of the doubt. But it was after the whistle and Ayo didn't even have the ball in his possession.
Here's my hot take... Griffin's play was unbelievably dumb in the era of replay, but it was barely a love tap and there was no real chance of injury.
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Ahh, the past exonerative tense - an old favorite of careless-yet-blameless police departments everywhere!
Players also rarely tickle their opponents. Very very rare. Pretty much never happens. Doesn’t mean it's worse than making hard contact with a player's face and/or head.
If either one of them happened to you on the court at the park, you think someone's not catching hands? Both were egregious, non-basketball acts.
Illinois won't release anything until closer to game time, but I think 2 games is expected then he will be masked Ayo.
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Your description of what happened is missing some important context. There was already a whistle before the hard foul and Ayo didn't have the ball at the time. There was no shot to block or scoring attempt to prevent. Sissoko decided he was going to hit Ayo, hard, after the whistle, to discourage him from driving to the basket. Shouldn't have happened and shouldn't be minimized after the fact.
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It has to heal a certain amount before you can even put a mask on I think. And I'm sure the medical staff has to feel confident that if he took a shot to the face with a mask on that he won't break it again.
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Maybe there's something funny about the injury such that it needs more time to set. Maybe there's more to the injury than has been publicly acknowledge. Maybe Ayo realizes that the B1G doesn't care about protecting players as much as it cares about making money so he's shifted his priorities accordingly too. Hard to say much other than that it sucks no matter what the explanation.
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Not to mention it got determined to be a flagrant 2 which definitely puts it beyond "hard foul" territory. That's like describing a murder as "violent behavior."
Can we also talk about the kid swiping down on Kofis head not being a flagrant foul?? I thought it was contact to the head? I’ve seen a lot less contact called a flagrant thisbyear. I thought the intent was to prevent kids from getting hurt. Rewatching the film of both Kofi and Ayo getting hit in the head, both could have resulted in neck injuries. I’m sorry but I want this officiating crew reprimanded.
100% agree! The ball was long gone from Ayo’s hands and the guy is still swiping at his head area while in mid air.
if you’re an Illini fan, after all Ayo has done for this university and you’re not upset and don’t want the league to do more then I don’t know what to say about your “Illini” fandom.
Basketball can get physical but a player hitting other players in the head multiple times in the same game?
what message does this send to other players? It’s okay to play like that especially when you have this Mickey Mouse reffing crew?
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I think they called it a common foul. Should have been a Flagrant 1. I think they gave him the benefit of the doubt and believed he was just trying to swipe at the ball (but missed horribly).
If he gets called for a Flagrant 1 there maybe Ayo doesn't suffer a broken nose. Huge whiff from the refs on that one.
They actually called a common foul on a push beforehand if I recall correctly. The knock on the head was after the whistle.
Is there any video of the play? I didn't see it.
I meant flagrant. I edited. But I thought any contact to the head was flagrant. Look at other games and calls. This should have been IMo.
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Hey, let's maintain some important perspective here - it's not like he said the word "cash" to an opposing bench or something.
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