Ohio State 86, Illinois 83 Postgame

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number1IlliniFan

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hoopsfan47 said:
Lots of things happened in this game to give the Illini a loss....but the majority of factors rest on our team and coach.

1. From the start, we ALL saw four defenders collapsing and hacking at Kofi, who kept trying to score instead of getting the ball to the perimeter with speed. Two factors rest here. First, the refs simply have a bias against Kofi because they see him not as a skilled player but as a bully. They are wrong and it shows blatantly. Secondly, Kofi has got to pass out that repeated failure is on the coaches who have not....by all evidence...not sufficiently impressed upon him and supported that action.
2. After the first 10 minutes or so, there was a definite lull to the energy expended for over 25 minutes before we saw what was almost an historic rally. We really missed Melendez tonight, and even more wishful, Hutch.
3. Upon seeing the replay, Frazier was hammered brutally on his layup attempt in the last 4 seconds. There is no excuse for the refs missing such an important play...and being out of position to see it is simply admitting incompetence. Surprised Trent did not suffer a severe injury such as hip displacement....he was really hit hard by Liddell much like Ayo at MSU last year. He should have had two freebies to win the game.

Bottom line is that the B1G needs to overhaul and elevate the training and requirements of their officials. The game is difficult to officiate due to speed and athleticism that very few can comprehend and will only get more difficult. I also know they get training, but for the money the game puts in the schools coffers and the importance of being the premier conference in the nation, it MUST improve training methods. These officials are not volunteers calling a game at walking speed that was being player 100 years ago. They are highly paid and trained, but are still not close to good enough. I am not whining and blaming this loss on them, even though their performance was...as expected...substandard and fraught with blunders. Every effort should be made to make sure every play is seen and properly interpreted....and that was not the case on the last 5 seconds. Do better.
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This. 100% The Big Ten is responsible for this incompetence.
 
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jumpingjack

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727ill said:
OSU simply hit tough shots at the end. Russell hitting a three right in plummers face and EJ hitting a turnaround jumper were two back breaking shots
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Yep that 3 felt like it killed a big run by us, significantly earlier in the half.
 
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I'm a loving caring dude for basketball specially college sports college football! I do not get how Kofi gets beat down assaulted and then he gets called for like the cheapest fouls on the planet? I know we didn't do our job but there are so many calls within a game that will transfer a Game it just makes me want to say something! But I'm not going to say it! Big Ten y'all suck! Your referees suck didn't hurt your teams in the NCAA tournament plain and simple!
 
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CubsWin said:
I disagree. We were going to be shorthanded going into overtime. I would rather have just gone for the win.
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I would have been ok with either one. When Trent got to the top of the key it opened up for him for a layup. No way they could stop him without fouling. Well we know how that ended. 🤨
 
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Illiniam1984

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I looked at the upcoming schedules for the top 4 teams. Purdue or Wisconsin is going to lose at least one more game obviously because they play each other but that’s not going to be enough for us to win the regular season title unless something crazy happens where they both lose twice or something. You never know in the B1G. However, it might be enough to get the 2 seed in the BTT if Wisconsin is the team that loses and if we win out. We beat them this year so we would get the higher seed. Now the only issue with that is Ohio State has 4 more games so they can tie us if they win out and we win out so we have to hope they trip up somewhere. Either way it looks like we will get one of the top four seeds and the double bye.
 
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fulton steamer said:
Really? You haven't noticed Kofi getting hacked and slapped two or three times every time he receives the ball down low? That's not rocket science either. In fact I'd say it's so obvious a grade school dropout could see it.
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Kofi missed plenty of easy layups today.
 
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IlliniGAP19 said:
Illini had 15 less trips to the stripe! 15!!!
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Dig deeper into those numbers. OSU made what, 13 in a row at one point? They maximized their opportunities. We were 11 of 17 and how many front ends did we miss? Those front end misses are the hidden points and missed opportunities for a second shot. That's on the players. The BU and DMW techs added four more shots.

Illinois had 6 more fouls called on them. For a team that jacked up 25 threes(not going to get fouled doing that), this discrepancy isn't that bad.

That said, Frazier was clearly fouled at the end.
 
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bjp84

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hoopsfan47 said:
Lots of things happened in this game to give the Illini a loss....but the majority of factors rest on our team and coach.

1. From the start, we ALL saw four defenders collapsing and hacking at Kofi, who kept trying to score instead of getting the ball to the perimeter with speed. Two factors rest here. First, the refs simply have a bias against Kofi because they see him not as a skilled player but as a bully. They are wrong and it shows blatantly. Secondly, Kofi has got to pass out that repeated failure is on the coaches who have not....by all evidence...not sufficiently impressed upon him and supported that action.
2. After the first 10 minutes or so, there was a definite lull to the energy expended for over 25 minutes before we saw what was almost an historic rally. We really missed Melendez tonight, and even more wishful, Hutch.
3. Upon seeing the replay, Frazier was hammered brutally on his layup attempt in the last 4 seconds. There is no excuse for the refs missing such an important play...and being out of position to see it is simply admitting incompetence. Surprised Trent did not suffer a severe injury such as hip displacement....he was really hit hard by Liddell much like Ayo at MSU last year. He should have had two freebies to win the game.

Bottom line is that the B1G needs to overhaul and elevate the training and requirements of their officials. The game is difficult to officiate due to speed and athleticism that very few can comprehend and will only get more difficult. I also know they get training, but for the money the game puts in the schools coffers and the importance of being the premier conference in the nation, it MUST improve training methods. These officials are not volunteers calling a game at walking speed that was being player 100 years ago. They are highly paid and trained, but are still not close to good enough. I am not whining and blaming this loss on them, even though their performance was...as expected...substandard and fraught with blunders. Every effort should be made to make sure every play is seen and properly interpreted....and that was not the case on the last 5 seconds. Do better.
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Yes there were some bad calls but they played better than we did. We can’t let a team go on a 19-4 run on our court and have our coach get 2 techs which basically cost us the game. If it motivates us to start playing with a little toughness than so be it.
 
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HailChief89

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I bleed Orange. There is no reason we should have given up over 50 points in the second half I don't understand that? If you all can explain it to me? Please do! that what a shame, we were in control of our own destiny until now!
 
#194      

skyIdub

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"Small" ball with CoHawk at the 5 should be the Kofi sub for the rest of the season. It clearly created energy and mismatches at the end that almost brought us back. CoHawk seems more comfortable near the rim. He is long, rangy, and has better passing skills than Payne.
 
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fulton steamer

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HailChief89 said:
I'm a loving caring dude for basketball specially college sports college football! I do not get how Kofi gets beat down assaulted and then he gets called for like the cheapest fouls on the planet? I know we didn't do our job but there are so many calls within a game that will transfer a Game it just makes me want to say something! But I'm not going to say it! Big Ten y'all suck! Your referees suck didn't hurt your teams in the NCAA tournament plain and simple!
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This is absolutely right. Of course there are things our guys could do better to win. That's just part of basketball. But what is not part of basketball, or at least shouldn't be, is referees allowing a young man, simply because he's huge, to be literally beaten up every stinking game. And enough already with you guys pretending to be the enlightened voices of reason. Kofi Cockburn is treated poorly by BIG officials. Period. If you can't see that you are blind!!
 
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