Illinois 60, Penn State 55 Postgame

#152      
It's not that we didn't blow Penn St out, give them credit they did have a good game plan. But we played right into it by not making any adjustments, playing uninspired/lethargically, and running out some odd lineups while sitting Hawkins in the second half until he had to come in for Grandison. Strange at this time of the year. That's where my concern comes from.
They have played almost everyone close, not just us.
 
#153      
I don’t understand all the talk on the broadcast of us being a final four and national title contender when we barely hang on to beat Penn State at home.
KU barely beat TCU Zona struggled against Stanford tonight. You only need to beat the team you play against. We did that. PSU is better than their record. They beat Iowa and MSU. They also lost to Wisconsin by 2 this year and played Purdue tough
 
#155      
I certainly think that's a major part of it. We've been incredibly unlucky. But at a certain point you either overcome that, or you don't, and we're kind of running out of time. I really hope this team doesn't become a "what could have been" story. I feel like we have enough of those as a fan base!
I'm with you Juiceman. We're down to one game left in the regular season and we've yet to play up to the level we're capable of. Blame it on injuries, or covid, or whatever. But we only have three guaranteed games left and with each passing game I'm feeling more and more irrational for thinking everything is suddenly going to click.

That said, it's possible that it'll all come together this week or next. And even if it doesn't, we're the type of team who could just get hot from three one weekend and suddenly find ourselves in the Finar Four.
 
#157      
I hope Grandison is OK. Frazier has been wearing shoulder protection almost all season. Shoulders are a notoriously nasty injury.
I wish folks would cut DaMonte Williams a lot more slack. He's a terrific fierce player and he's taken a lot of "stuff" from people who have probably never even held a basketball.
I haven't read the first six pages of thread but I thought Damonte looked solid tonight. I wanted him to shoot on more open looks - job done. I wanted him to drive to the basket, go up strong, and shoot (draw the fool - make the two) rather than pass it away - job done. He played solid defense (looked a LOT better with him than out). He grabbed some boards and played with a bounce. Someone hating on his game tonight? No way. Damonte looked like the player I've been wanting to see all year. Omar looked good (damn he's quick!) but I don't think the guards give him the opportunity they should in that rotation. Curbello needs to force that ball inside a lot less... dude there 15 seconds on the shot clock... chillax and move the ball around the permimeter. It was a slow, methodical game but I bet Coach Underwood is happy with his defensive effort if not the energy in the first half. I didn't see a bad game. Our shooting is our shooting... we're going to get hot one night and I'm waiting very patiently for that to happen. Eventually. Some day.
 
#158      
I'm with you Juiceman. We're down to one game left in the regular season and we've yet to play up to the level we're capable of. Blame it on injuries, or covid, or whatever. But we only have three guaranteed games left and with each passing game I'm feeling more and more irrational for thinking everything is suddenly going to click.

That said, it's possible that it'll all come together this week or next. And even if it doesn't, we're the type of team who could just get hot from three one weekend and suddenly find ourselves in the Finar Four.
The fact that we're in contention for a league championship heading into the final weekend and "we've yet to play up the level we're capable of" is not a reason for concern, I would think.
This team more often than not has manufactured ways to win in a very tough league in spite of the roadblocks. That makes me optimistic, not worried.
 
#159      
I'm with you Juiceman. We're down to one game left in the regular season and we've yet to play up to the level we're capable of. Blame it on injuries, or covid, or whatever. But we only have three guaranteed games left and with each passing game I'm feeling more and more irrational for thinking everything is suddenly going to click.

That said, it's possible that it'll all come together this week or next. And even if it doesn't, we're the type of team who could just get hot from three one weekend and suddenly find ourselves in the Finar Four.
i don't think we're the team that catches fire. i think we're more of a team when three people are down another three pick it up and carry the game. that might come down to individual matchups or someone getting hot... i don't think we, as a team, all get hot and stay hot. we're not that team. we keep it close, we don't give up, and we are learning to finish (LEARNING). i liked what I saw tonight... grandison, damonte, frazier, belo, and plummer driving to the basket... not everyone knows how to finish and make that layup/reverse but they made some progress tonight. are people unhappy with the win? i'm happy with a win.
 
#160      
I hope Grandison is OK. Frazier has been wearing shoulder protection almost all season. Shoulders are a notoriously nasty injury.
I wish folks would cut DaMonte Williams a lot more slack. He's a terrific fierce player and he's taken a lot of "stuff" from people who have probably never even held a basketball.
IMO...Frazier has played hurt/restricted for a while...everything else agreed. Also Kofi seems thicker...slower and tired...would say last 3-4 games.....and do we crash the boards anymore? Or is our defense so bad we have to run everyone back after a shot? Appreciate the late semi press to change up things last minute.
 
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#162      
That was painful. Just a pathetic effort from anyone not named Trent or Coleman, including coaches. We made no in game adjustments whatsoever. We press for one possession with 5 minutes to go? Then press up 6 with less than a minute to go and give up an uncontested three to cut it to one possession? Coleman played, what, 3 minutes in the second half and that was because Grandison got hurt. I don't get it at all.

I guess a win's a win, but man not an inspiring beginning to March. Sorry to be negative I know I will catch grief for it but that is how I see it.
You will not catch grief from this man. Frankly, we got beat in every category but free throws and IMO out coached by a country mile. Who the heck talks about Final4 as a Coach and player experience, expectations, and comes out and performs like that. The players and coaches just horrible. Kudos to Micah and his team of band aids. 1. Get Kofi up top, he cannot play the high pick and roll. 2. Force us to 1 side or other and make us play 3v5. We are in trouble folks. I hate saying it! Iowa is peaking and it will make send my TV out the door if they beat us.
 
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frozenrope9190

Aurora, IL
I know everyone wants the trajectory of the last two seasons where we found a stride and finished the season on a big win streak. I would love to have my stress level go down a bit myself. I was disappointed we didn't blow out Penn State today.

But I can't get freaked out about the future winning games. I just can't. We're 14-5 in one the best and deepest leagues in the country. We seem to win games when we're not playing well more often than not. Iowa is HOT HOT HOT right now and they can't catch us in the standings.

Because despite all the adversity we've faced, we did a pretty damn good job of winning the games. Iowa didn't. Purdue didn't. Wisconsin did, which is why they'll hang a banner (and they have had some dud games themselves that they powered through).
 
#164      
You will not catch grief from this man. Frankly, we got beat in every category but free throws and IMO out coached by a country mile. Who the heck talks about Final4 as a Coach and player experience, expectations, and comes out and performs like that. The players and coaches just horrible. Kudos to Micah and his team of band aids. 1. Get Kofi up top, he cannot play the high pick and roll. 2. Force us to 1 side or other and make us play 3v5. We are in trouble folks. I hate saying it! Iowa is peaking and it will make send my TV out the door if they beat us.
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frozenrope9190

Aurora, IL
You will not catch grief from this man. Frankly, we got beat in every category but free throws and IMO out coached by a country mile. Who the heck talks about Final4 as a Coach and player experience, expectations, and comes out and performs like that. The players and coaches just horrible. Kudos to Micah and his team of band aids. 1. Get Kofi up top, he cannot play the high pick and roll. 2. Force us to 1 side or other and make us play 3v5. We are in trouble folks. I hate saying it! Iowa is peaking and it will make send my TV out the door if they beat us.
Trouble how? If Iowa beats us on Sunday, they can't catch us in the standings. It's over. We've beaten them in the B10 conference race this season. Like we did last season and the season before. We're not going to play Iowa in the Dance unless we both meet in the elite 8 or something.

If you're worried that them beating us will have an impact in the BTT or the Dance, it won't. No correlation.
 
#166      
I mentioned a few keys plummer defense, damonte taking and making open shots, defending of tall 3s and 4s and tonight the team did decent in all these facets. We literally shut them down the last 5 minutes of the game even with their crazy amounts of ricochet offensive rebounds due to their bad shots. We shot poorly as a whole but never looked out of control or panicked. Honestly it was a game we could easily have not played with intensity, but rode strong defense to victory. Bad shooting happens but defense and intensity will always help a team through shooting slumps. Overall thought it was a good job on a bad shooting night.
 
#169      
Trouble how? If Iowa beats us on Sunday, they can't catch us in the standings. It's over. We've beaten them in the B10 conference race this season. Like we did last season and the season before. We're not going to play Iowa in the Dance unless we both meet in the elite 8 or something.

If you're worried that them beating us will have an impact in the BTT or the Dance, it won't. No correlation.
I agree with your points. But I will stay this we are 4-3 in our last seven games that's all I'm going to say.
 
#170      
The fact that we're in contention for a league championship heading into the final weekend and "we've yet to play up the level we're capable of" is not a reason for concern, I would think.
This team more often than not has manufactured ways to win in a very tough league in spite of the roadblocks. That makes me optimistic, not worried.
I posted nearly this exact thought a week or two ago. So I understand what you're saying. Yes, it's impressive that we can get second place in the B1G without having hit our stride. But if you have final four aspirations, you would like to see the team perform at a final four level going into the post season. And we haven't done that yet.
 
#172      
I wish folks would cut DaMonte Williams a lot more slack. He's a terrific fierce player and he's taken a lot of "stuff" from people who have probably never even held a basketball.
Damonte is a g!!!amn Illini legend. Trent is the jersey that should hang in the rafters. But Damonte is a guy like Sergio or Lucas who should never have to buy a drink or a dinner in Champaign. If you’re here to bag on Damonte, I will fight you. And more importantly, so will Damonte. And then he will save an out of bounds ball by spiking it off your face.
 
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#173      
Well, ya I guess a little, but he missed some easy ones (at least one layup I remember) and was pretty much in slow motion all first half. Like I said, I'll take the win, but was hoping for renewed energy after all the Final Four talk yada yada....
We’ll he only had one FGA that wasn’t a three so… I guess you’re technically correct with “at least one”. Me being a glass half full kind of guy I’d say “only one”.
 
#174      
Damonte is a g!!!amn Illini legend. Trent is the jersey that should hang in the rafters. But Damonte is a guy like Sergio or Lucas who should never have to buy a drink or a dinner in Champaign. If you’re here to bag on Damonte, I will fight you. And more importantly, so will Damonte. And then he will save an out of bounds ball by spiking it off your face.
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#175      
That was painful. Just a pathetic effort from anyone not named Trent or Coleman, including coaches. We made no in game adjustments whatsoever. We press for one possession with 5 minutes to go? Then press up 6 with less than a minute to go and give up an uncontested three to cut it to one possession? Coleman played, what, 3 minutes in the second half and that was because Grandison got hurt. I don't get it at all.

I guess a win's a win, but man not an inspiring beginning to March. Sorry to be negative I know I will catch grief for it but that is how I see it.
I’d guess we didn’t see Hawkins much in the second half because BU wanted shooters out there to try and open things up for Kofi and Hawk had gone 1 for 5 in first half including 0-3 from 3 along with 1 rebound. DMW and Grandy shot 43% from 3 on the game. But to Hawk’s credit he came up big in the last minute or so, which really shows his growth. Not sure we would have seen that from him a month ago.