St. Louis Cardinals 2022

#251      

Ryllini

Lombard
Well fellow fans, I brought home another dud last night. Hopefully the next two go better while here. Met a nice Illini fan and 3 Iowa fans last night. Gave us something to talk about around our scattered 3 hits and bean balls.

Let’s see if it gets chippy today, I don’t think anything was intentional last night.
 
#252      

pruman91

Paducah, Ky

Rick Hummel
After having striking for just five extra-base hits in their previous six-plus games, the Cardinals exploded for three in the same inning Wednesday. Doubles by Yadier Molina and Tommy Edman and a two-run triple by Dylan Carlson highlighted a five-run fourth inning that gave the Cardinals the final game of a three-game series with the New York Mets, 10-5, at Busch Stadium.
The Cardinals stopped at three a losing streak in which they had scored just three runs. But they lost some uniformed personnel in the eighth after Nolan Arenado was thrown at by Mets rookie Yoan Lopez and was ejected for instigating a ruckus in which Cardinals first-base coach Stubby Clapp also was booted for taking down Mets strongman Pete Alonso. Alonso, who been hit in the helmet the night before, had charged into the melee but was not ejected.

The Mets were retaliating for third baseman J.D Davis being hit in the left ankle by Genesis Cabrera the inning before . New York scored four runs off former Met Steve Matz in the second inning but, though his pitch count was skyrocketing, Matz was allowed to stay in and he gave the Cardinals two scoreless innings before the bullpen and the Cardinals’ defense took over.
 
#253      

pruman91

Paducah, Ky

Rick Hummel
Cardinals third baseman Nolan Arenado was suspended for two games and left-hander Genesis Cabrera one game by Major League Baseball for their actions during Wednesday's bench-clearing incident after Arenado took umbrage with a pitch thrown inside to him by the Mets' Yoan Lopez in the eighth inning.
Both Arenado, who shoved Mets catcher Tomas Nido and challenged Lopez, and Cabrera were fined an undisclosed amount but Arenado appealed his suspension as he remained in Thursday night's lineup for the game with Arizona. He was ejected from Wednesday's game but Cabrera, who served his suspension on Thursday, was not.
Cabrera had hit the Mets' J.D. Davis in the left ankle with a pitch in the top half of the eighth inning.

Lopez was fined for his part and right-handers Jack Flaherty of the Cardinals and Taijuan Walker of the Mets also both were fined for participating in the ruckus while they were on the injured list. No Mets were suspended or ejected.

Carlson doesn't play but does DH

Cardinals outfielder Dylan Carlson, who unfurled one of the throws of the season on Wednesday, isn't in the field for Thursday's game but he will serve as the designated hitter for the first time this season. Carlson didn't hurt his arm in throwing out a New York runner at third base but sustained an injury to his right big toe while hitting on Wednesday and manager Oliver Marmol is trying to reduce the stress for him.
 
#254      

pruman91

Paducah, Ky

Rick Hummel
“Whitey Ball” reappeared at Busch Stadium in all its 1980s glories Thursday night.
In the first two innings, Cardinals runners Paul Goldschmidt and Harrison Bader went from first to third on batted balls that were played by infielders. Tommy Edman raced from first to third on Goldschmidt’s bloop single in the first.
Tyler O’Neill stroked sacrifice flies in both innings as the Cardinals knocked out, softly, Arizona Diamondbacks starter Humberto Castellanos after two.
But “Whitey Ball,” so named after Hall of Fame manager Whitey Herzog, also featured efficient starting pitching. Dakota Hudson was more than efficient. He didn’t allow a hit until the sixth and then only one over six innings as he set the tone for a one-sided 8-3 victory.

The sinker baller’s previous start had been almost as impressive. He gave up just two hits in 6 2/3 innings at Cincinnati last Saturday in a 5-0 victory.
“It just goes back to what ‘Waino' will say. He’ll say, ‘Always pitch instead of throw,'" said Hudson, referring to the veteran staff ace.
“I remember facing (Hudson) a few years back and he was nasty,” said third baseman Nolan Arenado, who appealed his two-game suspension for Wednesday’s brouhaha here.
“I don't think it needs to be two games,” said Arenado. “I don't think it needs to be a suspension. Maybe a fine … but not a suspension.”
 
#255      
I like Whitey Ball. It is a more enjoyable style of baseball.
 
#256      

pruman91

Paducah, Ky

Well, the Cardinals and Paul Goldschmidt finally got that home run they were seeking Friday night after eight dry games. A lot of good it did.
The singles machine that has been the Cardinals lately churned out only three singles to go with a double by Nolan Arenado. That was the extent of the Cardinals’ attack in a 6-2 loss to the light-hitting Arizona Diamondbacks before a paid house of 40,753 at Busch Stadium.
Arizona had been so punchless entering the game that it had by far the lowest team batting average in the majors, .178. This renders it almost inexcusable that the Cardinals walked six of them, five in six innings by normal control artist Adam Wainwright.

No, not ALMOST inexcusable. The adverb wasn’t necessary.
“It’s tough to get beat,” said Wainwright (2-3). “But it’s tougher when you beat yourself. And that’s what I did.
“They’ve got some scrappy guys over there but I don’t think they score today without me giving all those free passes. The game’s about execution and tonight I didn’t execute like I needed to. I didn’t execute like a big-league pitcher should. And that’s why we lost the game. There’s no excuse for it. There’s no rhyme or reason for it.”
Four of those walks — three by Wainwright — were tied to four of the runs scored by Arizona.“All those walks scoring — that’s what got us,” Cardinals manager Oliver Marmol said. “We didn’t make them earn it today.”
 
#257      

pruman91

Paducah, Ky

Rick Hummel
The Cardinals scored 18 runs in their previous two games before they met the Arizona Diamondbacks Friday night. Leadoff man Tommy Edman scored six of them, three in each game.
Yes, that’s leadoff man Tommy Edman, and manager Oliver Marmol said he didn’t see any reason why that should change anytime soon.
One of the raps on Edman last season was that he walked just 38 times in 641 at-bats. This season, he had almost a quarter that many (nine) in only 62 at-bats and his on-base percentage was .425, compared to his .308 of last season.
Another critique was that Edman didn’t hit with production against right-handed pitching. Much of his spring training was conducted in the lab, as it were, as Edman tried to adjust his approach so that he could handle the high fastball from right-handers.

In his first 18 games this season, the switch-hitting Edman, who has replaced Dylan Carlson at the top, not only had a .456 on-base percentage while batting left-handed but a .934 OPS and two of his three homers.
“He is walking at a higher rate,” said Marmol, “and not just putting balls in play that are on the edges (of the plate). He’s actually waiting for pitches he can do something with.
“If he continues to do that, I don’t see any reason for changing it at the moment.”
 
#258      

Rick Hummel
The Cardinals scored 18 runs in their previous two games before they met the Arizona Diamondbacks Friday night. Leadoff man Tommy Edman scored six of them, three in each game.
Yes, that’s leadoff man Tommy Edman, and manager Oliver Marmol said he didn’t see any reason why that should change anytime soon.
One of the raps on Edman last season was that he walked just 38 times in 641 at-bats. This season, he had almost a quarter that many (nine) in only 62 at-bats and his on-base percentage was .425, compared to his .308 of last season.
Another critique was that Edman didn’t hit with production against right-handed pitching. Much of his spring training was conducted in the lab, as it were, as Edman tried to adjust his approach so that he could handle the high fastball from right-handers.

In his first 18 games this season, the switch-hitting Edman, who has replaced Dylan Carlson at the top, not only had a .456 on-base percentage while batting left-handed but a .934 OPS and two of his three homers.
“He is walking at a higher rate,” said Marmol, “and not just putting balls in play that are on the edges (of the plate). He’s actually waiting for pitches he can do something with.
“If he continues to do that, I don’t see any reason for changing it at the moment.”
I was very critical of Edman batting leadoff but he seems to have really worked on his approach and his OBP is so much better this season. If he keeps doing this he's a great leadoff guy.
 
#259      

pruman91

Paducah, Ky

Rick Hummel
The Cardinals haven't hit a homer in eight games. Nolan Gorman, the Class AAA Memphis second baseman, was tied for the professional baseball lead with 10 homers, including two on Wednesday, matched by Class AA Springfield outfielder Moises Gomez.
But Cardinals manager Oliver Marmol said Thursday that there were no immediate plans to bring up Gorman unless he was going to be an everyday player.

“That’s the most important part of that move being made,” Marmol said. “At the moment, I don’t see that being the case.
“As we said this spring, this kid’s going to come up and help at some point. If you’re asking for a window ... I have no idea. But when we feel it’s the right time, I guarantee you he will be here.”
Marmol allowed that being the DH counts as playing every day but he doesn’t want Gorman pegged as a DH.
“With somebody who’s relatively new to a position, and still learning it, especially second base, to have him solely DH-ing would take some steps backward from a defensive standpoint,” said Marmol.
 
#260      

pruman91

Paducah, Ky

Derrick Goold
With Miles Mikolas and Merrill Kelly mirroring zeroes through seven fuel-efficient innings, the arc of Saturday’s game drove inevitably toward which offense could make the most from the fewest swings.
The Cardinals now are not that lineup.
Two swings in the span of six pitches during the eighth inning sent two solo home runs into the bullpens at Busch Stadium and catapulted Kelly’s Arizona Diamondbacks to a 2-0 victory and the potential for a series win Sunday. Ketel Marte hit Mikolas’ 93rd pitch of the game for his first home run of the season, and Nick Ahmed followed two batters later with a homer on Mikolas’ 98th and final pitch. The runs scarred an otherwise superb start from Mikolas that, before Marte’s homer, extended his scoreless streak to 19 consecutive innings, the longest by any pitcher in the majors this season.

And there it would have stayed, to be continued in his next outing, had manager Oliver Marmol not stuck with Mikolas. He had lefty Genesis Cabrera or right-
“Miles did his job. I didn’t do mine,” Marmol said. “He was really good for seven. He was at 91 pitches. We’ve got a pretty damn good bullpen. Should have gone to it.”
Any lead likely would have made the decision for him.
Ryan Helsley warmed and ready for the eighth.
 
#261      

pruman91

Paducah, Ky
Cardinals with a nice 7-5 comeback win today against the Diamondbacks .....................................Bader with a 2 run homer to put the cardinals ahead 6-5 and then Arenado with a solo blast .......

Ryan Helsley with 2 of the most dominant innings that I can remember , throwing at least 7-8 pitches of 101 mph or faster with a top out of 103 mph......

LETS GO CARDINALS
 
#262      
Cardinals with a nice 7-5 comeback win today against the Diamondbacks .....................................Bader with a 2 run homer to put the cardinals ahead 6-5 and then Arenado with a solo blast .......

Ryan Helsley with 2 of the most dominant innings that I can remember , throwing at least 7-8 pitches of 101 mph or faster with a top out of 103 mph......

LETS GO CARDINALS
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#263      
They can be so frustrating. Still love them.
 
#265      

pruman91

Paducah, Ky

Derrick Goold
During the handshake and hand-slap line on the field that only goes to the victors, Cardinals center fielder Harrison Bader repeated the same phrase Sunday to teammates.
“We earned that one,” he said.
High five.
“We earned that one.”
Hand clasp.
“We earned it.”
After falling behind twice because Arizona continued to do what it so often had not this season, the Cardinals socked two home runs in the seventh inning to rally and overtake the Diamondbacks for a 7-5 victory at Busch Stadium. The Cardinals had gone more than two weeks without hitting two home runs in a game before Bader and Nolan Arenado each hit one over the left-field wall in the span of six pitches.

Bader’s two-run, two-strike jolt was his first homer of the season and flipped a game that featured two rallies started by Andrew Knizner, an encouraging start from Jordan Hicks and Ryan Helsley’s super-powered, six-out save.
“It was one of those games where we were kind of behind the entire time,” Bader said. “Put up a run, and they came back with another solo shot. They kept applying the pressure. We stuck to our plan. That was just a win that we earned as a team, collectively.”
 
#266      

pruman91

Paducah, Ky

Derrick Goold
With each step toward his team-leading 10th walk in the third inning, his team-leading 12th run, and a single in the fifth, leadoff hitter Tommy Edman felt his left hip tighten into an issue.
The Cardinals’ second baseman played the field in the top of the sixth before leaving Sunday’s 7-5 victory with increasing soreness in his hip flexor. Edman had been playing through the discomfort for several days but felt getting off his feet for a few innings might avoid the injury becoming something that sidelines him for a week, not a game.
“It’s just been tight for a couple of days,” said Edman, who is second on the team with a .306 average. “Just progressively, after each at-bat, it just got a little tighter so I figured I would take the rest of the day off. I don’t think it’s a long-term thing, whatsoever.”

The Cardinals had circled Monday as a possible day off for Edman — his first breather of the season — and the hip pain cinches it.
Edman’s departure from a game and hip soreness comes as the Cardinals and other 29 major-league clubs must cut their roster down from 28 on Sunday to 26 by game time Monday. Edman’s availability in the coming days could influence the final decision for the Cardinals as they weigh carrying 14 pitchers or 13 and an additional infielder.
Manager Oliver Marmol said how Sunday’s game played out would influence the final calls on the roster moves. They’ll finalize them Monday morning. Lefty reliever Packy Naughton is expected to be optioned to Class AAA Memphis, leaving one other trim for the Cardinals.
 
#267      

pruman91

Paducah, Ky

The first play of Saturday’s game illustrated how Tommy Edman’s skills allow the Cardinals to aggressively position him all over and why, as they mull potential roster moves, they remain reluctant to move him to a spot other than second base.
Left-handed hitter Pavin Smith pulled a groundball to the right side, and Edman, playing deep in the grass, dashed in to make the on-the-run play appear routine for the first out against Arizona. The assist was Edman’s 59th of the season, the most of any fielder in the majors and nine more than any other second baseman at the time. With their emphasis on defense, the Cardinals feel they can position Edman deeper on shifts because of his ability to rush in. And, even as they search for offense, his deft play at second is reason not to rush a move to shortstop to make room for slugging prospect Nolan Gorman.

“You’re lessening your defense in two spots,” manager Oliver Marmol said. “He’s a gold glover at second, and we have him as improving at second, too. He’s actually getting better at it. I hear people when they say, ‘Hey, what does it look like if he goes here and you bring up this guy?’ And I get it. But understand what you’re potentially losing.”
 
#268      

BillyBob1

Champaign

The first play of Saturday’s game illustrated how Tommy Edman’s skills allow the Cardinals to aggressively position him all over and why, as they mull potential roster moves, they remain reluctant to move him to a spot other than second base.
Left-handed hitter Pavin Smith pulled a groundball to the right side, and Edman, playing deep in the grass, dashed in to make the on-the-run play appear routine for the first out against Arizona. The assist was Edman’s 59th of the season, the most of any fielder in the majors and nine more than any other second baseman at the time. With their emphasis on defense, the Cardinals feel they can position Edman deeper on shifts because of his ability to rush in. And, even as they search for offense, his deft play at second is reason not to rush a move to shortstop to make room for slugging prospect Nolan Gorman.

“You’re lessening your defense in two spots,” manager Oliver Marmol said. “He’s a gold glover at second, and we have him as improving at second, too. He’s actually getting better at it. I hear people when they say, ‘Hey, what does it look like if he goes here and you bring up this guy?’ And I get it. But understand what you’re potentially losing.”
Is it time to move him to short and bring up Gorman to play 2nd?
 
#269      
Is it time to move him to short and bring up Gorman to play 2nd?
Personally think it's past due. Dickerson signing was a mistake. I think the plan should've been for Nootbaar and Gorman to fill the left handed DH spot with Gorman also getting time at 2nd and Edman at short, playing 2nd when Gorman DHs or has a day off. At this point this is pretty obviously the club manipulating Gorman's service time. I just hope it doesn't sour the relationship between Gorman and the FO. But with the Dickerson signing now Nootbaar and Gorman are both stuck in AAA, though I think either are better players.

I get that Edman is a great 2nd baseman, but his glove will still save runs at short. The question is whether the upgrade in bat between Gorman and DeJong outweighs the downgrade in defense between Gorman and DeJong, and I think it's at the point where you at least have to give it a try.
 
#270      

pruman91

Paducah, Ky
Cardinals beat the Royals 1-0 as Goldie hit a homer in the bottom of the first and the Cardinals make it stand up with a well played game and so more excellent bullpen work....

LETS GO CARDINALS......

Now lets hope the Blues win their first round opening game tonight on the road against the Minnesota Wild ......

LETS GO BLUES...................
 
#271      
Personally think it's past due. Dickerson signing was a mistake. I think the plan should've been for Nootbaar and Gorman to fill the left handed DH spot with Gorman also getting time at 2nd and Edman at short, playing 2nd when Gorman DHs or has a day off. At this point this is pretty obviously the club manipulating Gorman's service time. I just hope it doesn't sour the relationship between Gorman and the FO. But with the Dickerson signing now Nootbaar and Gorman are both stuck in AAA, though I think either are better players.

I get that Edman is a great 2nd baseman, but his glove will still save runs at short. The question is whether the upgrade in bat between Gorman and DeJong outweighs the downgrade in defense between Gorman and DeJong, and I think it's at the point where you at least have to give it a try.

Dickerson signing was necessary at the time. He actually ended up being a backup option for them as I believe they were interested in signing Schwarber (or one of the other leftie DHs out there).

Nootbaar isn't stuck in AAA. He was maybe getting at-bats one day a week and doesn't have the positional flexibility that Donovan does.
 
#272      
Dickerson signing was necessary at the time. He actually ended up being a backup option for them as I believe they were interested in signing Schwarber (or one of the other leftie DHs out there).

Nootbaar isn't stuck in AAA. He was maybe getting at-bats one day a week and doesn't have the positional flexibility that Donovan does.
Well, he was getting fewer at bats because they signed Dickerson. If we hadn't signed Dickerson, Nootbaar would have played that role. He actually has more positional flexibility than Dickerson does (Dickerson is a liability anywhere other than LF, whereas Nootbaar can play all 3 OF positions). And I don't think Dickerson has a better bat than Nootbaar now, and Nootbaar has room to improve while Dickerson is past his prime.
 
#273      

pruman91

Paducah, Ky

Derrick Goold
The first two batters of the game Monday saw 20 pitches from lefty Steven Matz, and it felt like a blitz that took “only two minutes” to catcher Andrew Knizner. So when the third batter laced Matz’s 24th pitch for a single, Knizner called for time.
He walked slowly out to the mound, his head down.
Matz asked what was wrong.
“Nothing’s wrong,” Knizner recalled saying. “Your stuff is good. I’m just giving you a break. That was like holy (crud) — it was like a whirlwind. I wanted to make sure we slowed it down for a few minutes.”
Matz retired the next batter, All-Star Salvador Perez, on two pitches and then sped through the Kansas City Royals’ lineup from there. Racing the rain expected to douse Busch Stadium — and did — by Monday afternoon, Matz set a brisk pace and kept it for six shutout innings as he piloted the Cardinals toward a 1-0 victory.

Paul Goldschmidt provided the game’s lone run, with a homer in the bottom of the first inning off Zack Greinke, and Matz held it with his finest home start yet of the season.
“We were in rhythm,” said Matz (3-1). “That’s huge for me.”
The makeup game originally set for Monday afternoon was rescheduled to a noon start to avoid any weather delays and allow both teams to vamoose west for their two-game series on the other side of the state, in Kansas City. Both pitchers understood the assignment. By not allowing a walk and limiting runs, Matz and Greinke accelerated the game. They got through the sixth inning and the only hitter to touch third base safely was Goldschmidt, and he didn’t stay long on his way home for his second homer of the season.
 
#274      

pruman91

Paducah, Ky

Derrick Goold
With a one-word answer Monday morning, Cardinals manager Oliver Marmol captured what he believes is a big, necessary message sent to the clubhouse.
Required to reduce the active roster by two players, to 26 on Monday, the Cardinals had the option of least resistance and could have returned two eligible players to the minors without fuss and maintained control of all players on the 40-man roster. They instead risked losing reliever Aaron Brooks on waivers in order to keep young pitchers like Andre Pallante, Kodi Whitley and Jake Woodford in the bullpen.
Asked why, Marmol was blunt.
“Performance,” he said.

Precedence he set.
“At some point I understand the options and that was a big part of going back and forth,” Marmol said. “But what message are you sending to that clubhouse and to the guys who are competing if performance isn’t going to outweigh just having options?”
Because of the late start of spring training, the players’ union and Major League Baseball agreed to play the first month of games with an expanded, 28-man roster. By Monday’s games, that roster had to be reduced to the standard 26. Teams are permitted to carry 14 pitchers for a few more weeks before the rule setting a maximum of 13 begins.
 
#275      

Derrick Goold
The first two batters of the game Monday saw 20 pitches from lefty Steven Matz, and it felt like a blitz that took “only two minutes” to catcher Andrew Knizner. So when the third batter laced Matz’s 24th pitch for a single, Knizner called for time.
He walked slowly out to the mound, his head down.
Matz asked what was wrong.
“Nothing’s wrong,” Knizner recalled saying. “Your stuff is good. I’m just giving you a break. That was like holy (crud) — it was like a whirlwind. I wanted to make sure we slowed it down for a few minutes.”
Matz retired the next batter, All-Star Salvador Perez, on two pitches and then sped through the Kansas City Royals’ lineup from there. Racing the rain expected to douse Busch Stadium — and did — by Monday afternoon, Matz set a brisk pace and kept it for six shutout innings as he piloted the Cardinals toward a 1-0 victory.

Paul Goldschmidt provided the game’s lone run, with a homer in the bottom of the first inning off Zack Greinke, and Matz held it with his finest home start yet of the season.
“We were in rhythm,” said Matz (3-1). “That’s huge for me.”
The makeup game originally set for Monday afternoon was rescheduled to a noon start to avoid any weather delays and allow both teams to vamoose west for their two-game series on the other side of the state, in Kansas City. Both pitchers understood the assignment. By not allowing a walk and limiting runs, Matz and Greinke accelerated the game. They got through the sixth inning and the only hitter to touch third base safely was Goldschmidt, and he didn’t stay long on his way home for his second homer of the season.
Smart catchers are priceless.