St. Louis Cardinals 2022

#1      

IlliniFan85

Colorado Springs, CO
Its time to update the thread. This was how I lead of last years thread:

I'm still upset about Wong being released. If he isn't resigned it means more deteriorated Carpenter at 3rd and more deteriorated Fowler in right. What a product ownership is putting on the field for the fans. Who really wants to go watch that in person?

Turns out, we ended up with Arenado at 3B instead of Carp, which was ideal. And we ended up with Edman at 2B, which was ok. I mean he won a gold glove, but we also got to watch him play RF, and that wasn't ideal. And finally Fowler was traded away (which again was ideal) before injuring his knee and we didn't have to worry about any of that.

So the questions we have this year is whether we will even have a season. And we will be wondering all year if a season occurs if our pitching will hold up.

Go Cards!
 
#2      

pruman91

Paducah, Ky
Its time to update the thread. This was how I lead of last years thread:

I'm still upset about Wong being released. If he isn't resigned it means more deteriorated Carpenter at 3rd and more deteriorated Fowler in right. What a product ownership is putting on the field for the fans. Who really wants to go watch that in person?

Turns out, we ended up with Arenado at 3B instead of Carp, which was ideal. And we ended up with Edman at 2B, which was ok. I mean he won a gold glove, but we also got to watch him play RF, and that wasn't ideal. And finally Fowler was traded away (which again was ideal) before injuring his knee and we didn't have to worry about any of that.

So the questions we have this year is whether we will even have a season. And we will be wondering all year if a season occurs if our pitching will hold up.

Go Cards!
SS is my biggest worry right now , with pitching depth , rotation AND bullpen close behind...............Marmol's managing style will probably mirror Schildt's , so that isn't as big an unknown as if we had hired someone from outside the organization..........
 
#3      

Illwinsagain

Cary, IL
Things that I am interested to find out...

1. Pitching, without good-great pitching, this team goes nowhere.
2. Will the outfield continue to perform? Last year, they exceeded my expectations.
3. I do agree that SS is a concern, but if our biggest issue is DeJong/Sosa, I can live with that.
4. What solution is there for the potential DH? Would we really go with an unproven bat? Is there a decent FA out there?

I fully expect a reasonably full season.
 
#4      

jmwillini

Tolono, IL
I hope I am wrong, but I think the team is a lot closer to the first 5 months, than the winning streak.

So many questions.

Pitching
--------

Is Flaherty healthy? Are Mikolas, Hudson?
Does Waino suddenly show his age?
Is Matz the 20 or 21 version?
Does Reyes finally stay injury free and live up to his potential. (Remember Reyes being on of the top 2-3 pitching prospect and Taveras being the #1 hitting prospect?)
Still need at least 2 relief pitchers.

Hitting
-------

They really need a left handed bat. (Is Gorman ready? Are other prospects?)
Still believe they need an upgrade at short. Would love the early career version of DeJong, but that's a while back. I loved Mo's explanation of the rib injury hurting him when he was hitting right about .200 before he was hurt.
 
#5      

the national

the Front Range
My gut tells me DeJong has a bounce back. He never got his timing after being injured. The power was (on rare occasion) there but his timing was hardly right. A good spring training would do him well.
 
#6      
Oh boy. Baseball talk. Now if the owners and players talked too.
DH is here. Extended playoffs. Expanded rosters. Teams will still control young players. Maybe give up one year of control.
As for StL I am not overly concerned about SS. The bench and DH will matter. The development of the 4-7 starting pitchers. There will be injuries and pitchers not doing as well as we want so look for changes in the rotation. We can always use more help in the pen.
 
#7      
1. Pitching: I'm honestly worried here. Matz is a fine but underwhelming addition. If Flaherty, Hudson, and Mikolas can stay healthy we should be fine, but that's a big if considering their last couple seasons. Waino is awesome, but given his age I don't think we can put all our eggs in the repeat of last season basket. Would like to see another pick up, ideally front end of rotation type, but being realistic we probably end up just signing a cheap 6th starter type.

2. SS: We're not going to add anyone here, and I'm kinda fine with that now. DeJong and Sosa are underwhelming on the batting end but at least solid defensively.

3. DH: If this happens I think we roll with a platoon including the following internal options: Nootbar, Yepez, Baker and Gorman. Probably Nootbar and Yepez to start. Nootbar and Gorman are lefties, which helps.

4. Lineup strategy: Will Marmol finally end Edman's run as lead off? This was one of my biggest frustrations with Schildt. A lead off hitter is supposed to get on base. Edman's OBP was .308 last season. That is bad. For comparison's sake, Sosa's OBP was .346. Heck, Carp's was .305!
 
#10      
As we sit here and wait while the owners and MLBPA dither I can't help but feel the fans are like Oliver Twist.

thumb_please-si%C5%99-maylhave-somemore-memecrunch-com-oliver-twist-please-sir-48995037.png
 
#11      

Illwinsagain

Cary, IL
As we sit here and wait while the owners and MLBPA dither I can't help but feel the fans are like Oliver Twist.

thumb_please-si%C5%99-maylhave-somemore-memecrunch-com-oliver-twist-please-sir-48995037.png
I am guessing that the "average" fan will not really start sweating until after the Super Bowl. I know it is late this year, right about when pitchers and catchers usually report.
 
#12      
So have we ever found out what was meant my the "philisophical differences between Schildt and the organization that led to his firing?
 
#13      
So have we ever found out what was meant my the "philisophical differences between Schildt and the organization that led to his firing?
No, but if I had to guess it probably had to do with bone headed decisions regarding lineups and pitching. The guy batted someone with a .308 OBP in the leadoff spot pretty much all season and his decision to put Reyes in when he did in the Wild Card game was indefensible. I know a lot of you hate Mo, but Schildt was not a good manager.