Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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The different world of college basketball

Illinois offered 236 recruits in Underwood's first four full classes from 2018-2021. More than 40 percent of those players have already transferred. Some more than once. In total, 101 of the 236 former Illini targets have changed teams. That includes nine that chose Illinois and ultimately decided to head elsewhere after at least one season in orange and blue (Alan Griffin, Anthony Higgs, Tevian Jones, Samba Kane, Jermaine Hamlin, Benjamin Bosmans-Verdonk, Andre Curbelo, Adam Miller and Brandin Podziemsk
From the News-Gazette
Thanks to Scott Richey for compiling those numbers. Wow. I wonder whether statistics are similar across high major programs. If the future of D1 basketball is a world in which 40-50% of players transfer at least once during their careers, then "recruiting" is an entirely different game than it was just a few years ago.

Happily, it seems that our staff is ahead of the curve for now. I'm curious: do the Illini have someone on staff whose primary role is to scout potential transfer targets, and field communications with those players' handlers, AAU coaches, etc. within the confines of current anti-tampering rules?
 
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217sports

Springfield
Kofi will have an NBA invite. Mayer was invited last year but declined. I assume he will receive an invite this year as well but not guaranteed. They both could have gotten GLeague invites but declined as well, that list is just who accepted
 
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Are any of the Freshman on campus yet? Curious about practice reports.....anyone makin All their 3's?
 
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theNewGuy

Dallas, TX
To me it means he got an NBA combine invite. This list is for players who did NOT get an invite.
Question. How do you know these players did NOT get an invite? (I'm not familiar with this, just looking for clarification)

Is there a rule or something that you can't attend both NBA and GLeague camp? and therefore you're assuming that if these players received an invite to both that they would no doubt choose to go to the NBA camp?
 
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Question. How do you know these players did NOT get an invite? (I'm not familiar with this, just looking for clarification)

Is there a rule or something that you can't attend both NBA and GLeague camp? and therefore you're assuming that if these players received an invite to both that they would no doubt choose to go to the NBA camp?
I believe that the G League combine invites are for players who are not on the initial NBA combine invite list. If you make the NBA's initial list, you aren't on the G League list, because it would make no sense for you to go to that really. I think that after the G League combine the NBA asks front offices who from the G League combine they would like to see added to the NBA list, typically based on their performance at the G League combine.
 
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JFGsCoffeeMug

BU:1 Trash cans:0
Chicago
Question. How do you know these players did NOT get an invite? (I'm not familiar with this, just looking for clarification)

Is there a rule or something that you can't attend both NBA and GLeague camp? and therefore you're assuming that if these players received an invite to both that they would no doubt choose to go to the NBA camp?
A certain number of NBA combine invites have already gone out. If you just Google "NBA combine invite," the articles will pop up. Those participating in the NBA G League Elite Camp have a small chance to work their way into a combine invite if they show out as a "top performer" (only 4 out of 40 camp participants received combine invites last year. There were 69 combine invites total). In other words, the ultimate goal of camp participation is to receive a combine invite. So I would think of the NBA G League Elite Camp as a kind of play-in game for the combine.

Moving to your hypothetical: if someone received both invites, is there anything stopping them from attending both? I suppose the main answer to your question would be "calculated risk." If you've already received a combine invite, there's no reason to insert yourself into a situation, against lesser competition, where people will be fighting tooth-and-nail for something you already have. You could get injured. You could lower your draft stock. And even if you perform well, you've done nothing that wasn't already expected. It's a better use of your time to continue working out with a personal trainer and preparing for the combine itself. The same thought-process applies to those who are projected to be high-lottery picks. No reason to participate in the combine if there is little to gain and the main risks are injury, underperforming, and dropping your draft stock.
 
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Soulberries

University of Illinois
A certain number of NBA combine invites have already gone out. If you just Google "NBA combine invite," the articles will pop up. Those participating in the NBA G League Elite Camp have a small chance to work their way into a combine invite if they show out as a "top performer" (only 4 out of 40 camp participants received combine invites last year. There were 69 combine invites total). In other words, the ultimate goal of camp participation is to receive a combine invite. So I would think of the NBA G League Elite Camp as a kind of play-in game for the combine.

Moving to your hypothetical: if someone received both invites, is there anything stopping them from attending both? I suppose the main answer to your question would be "calculated risk." If you've already received a combine invite, there's no reason to insert yourself into a situation, against lesser competition, where people will be fighting tooth-and-nail for something you already have. You could get injured. You could lower your draft stock. And even if you perform well, you've done nothing that wasn't already expected. It's a better use of your time to continue working out with a personal trainer and preparing for the combine itself. The same thought-process applies to those who are projected to be high-lottery picks. No reason to participate in the combine if there is little to gain and the main risks are injury, underperforming, and dropping your draft stock.
My understanding is that those invited to the G League Elite Camp were not (initially) invited to the combine. The list that went out today are those who have accepted that invitation. The top performers may earn an invite to the NBA combine. So a player wouldn't be on both lists unless they were later added to the NBA combine list after their performance at the G League Elite Camp.

What this means to me is that since Nance accepted the G League Elite Camp invite, we'll be waiting a little while longer for potential positive news about Nance.

**EDITED** ... except for tidbits from Ant Wright.
 
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WingedWarriors

Leesburg, FL
NBA G League Elite Camp is May 16, 17 followed by the NBA Combine, which ends May 22. "Some players will work their way into the NBA Combine later that week," according to the above tweet.

There are 60 NBA teams, but in the 2022 NBA Draft this year, there are a total of 58 first and second round selections. While there are numerous mock drafts out there that DO have variances in the mock draft players, the most recent updated list at the official NBA site lists the top 50 updated NBA Draft prospects, and it is not linked to team selection. Is it the best and most informed ? ... I do not know. It also is not linked to a specific written date. However, it includes nobody that has accepted an invite to the NBA G League Elite Camp ... that 2nd tier of sorts.

In that top 50, PBJ is # 16

Since Brady Manek received a G-League Elite Camp invitation, perhaps (but not assuredly) one can read between the lines that Matthew Mayer received neither a G-League Elite Camp invite nor a Combine invite. Then again, I am no expert on who potentially interested NBA teams would consider a better fit between the two. Furthermore, I cannot think of a good reason why someone would go through the process, get an invite to the G League Elite Camp, and turn it down.

The list for the NBA Combine has not yet been released, nor does it say how many are invited.
 
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