Memorial Stadium Game Day Experience

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ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
1. What is your preferred endzone look for the Illini? Unfortunately, fellow Chief lovers, this must remain realistic. :cry:
2. In your ideal world, what does the rest of the Memorial Stadium renovation look like? Obvious subjects are the SEZ (Horseshoe), east side in general and maybe even the NEZ (current student section).
3. On that note, where would YOU personally like to see the students go? If you would move them from the NEZ, what would you have happen to the NEZ?
4. Lastly, what is your ideal Illini uniform "norm" for us to wear most seasons?
1. An insanely steep single-tier standing terrace like Borussia Dortmund in Germany
2. The same. Just add backs to the benches.
3. See #1
4. I'll stir the pot on this one: are we sure we want to change our uniforms next season still?
 
#402      

MustangWally

Mayfield
Since we have a bye week, I thought I would pose some "fan survey" questions about Memorial Stadium to pass the time. :cool:

1. What is your preferred endzone look for the Illini? Unfortunately, fellow Chief lovers, this must remain realistic. :cry:
2. In your ideal world, what does the rest of the Memorial Stadium renovation look like? Obvious subjects are the SEZ (Horseshoe), east side in general and maybe even the NEZ (current student section).
3. On that note, where would YOU personally like to see the students go? If you would move them from the NEZ, what would you have happen to the NEZ?
4. Lastly, what is your ideal Illini uniform "norm" for us to wear most seasons?

My personal answers:

1. A script Illinois font in the endzone would be absolutely bada$$ - orange background and blue font with white outline.

2. I think the SEZ endzone renovations, if we can afford it, should exactly match this, with the exterior looking architecturally consistent with the columns outside of both the east and west balconies:
illini_1.jpg

This would REALLY help to trap stadium noise, and it would make the interior of Memorial Stadium look beautiful, IMO. Then, I would like to see EVERY SINGLE SEAT that currently hangs underneath the east balcony overhang removed (with its capacity shifted to the new SEZ structure), and a concourse area added behind it to match the look of the east balcony ... one of the best things about Memorial was the symmetry, and we totally botched that by only renovating the west. The west seats should look like this, with the existing upper deck on top instead of the pressbox on the east:
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Then, do what you want with the NEZ, you could even leave it as is, and make it a family area ... just don't put the students there!

3. On that note, just put the students back where they were in 2006. Some have floated the balcony idea, but personally ... I want the opportunity there for the students to rush the field when the occasion calls for it. Even if you are the most cautious, fun-hating person alive, who could have watched the end of Tennessee/Alabama and not wanted that scene at Memorial some day?!

4. I think our uniforms should be nearly ironclad, set in stone:
Home: O-B-O
Away: O-W-O
vs. NU: Bears setup ALWAYS ... B-B-W at home, B-W-B in Evanston, B-O-W at neutral sites (i.e., Chicago) or for random/special home games

I'm not sure I ever want to see all orange again in my life, and I think all blue - while cool - should be reserved for like a bowl game or POSSIBLY an occasional Mizzou uniform if that rivalry can get back off the ground.
UT is fund raising to pay for the cost of replacing the goal posts. And the SEC fined them $100,000 for allowing it to happen.

 
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Ransom Stoddard

Ordained Dudeist Priest
Bloomington, IL
4. I'll stir the pot on this one: are we sure we want to change our uniforms next season still?
As far as colors/combos go, this year has been stellar. The "I" on the helmet is properly aligned, and everything looks as good on TV as it does in the stadium.

Having said that, there are a couple of things that need to happen, and it's mostly addition by subtraction:
1. Abolish 1LL1NO1S and F1GHT1NG 1LL1N1 everywhere so that it never ever gets considered for use again, anywhere in UIUC athletics. Even replacing it with a semi-generic block font of the same words is a 10,000% improvement. A classic "generic" look is so much better IMO than this try-hard design.
2. Retire the shield, just stick with Block I. TBH I haven't noticed the shield on any unis this year, but just be proactive and cease the use of it everywhere.
 

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As far as colors/combos go, this year has been stellar. The "I" on the helmet is properly aligned, and everything looks as good on TV as it does in the stadium.

Having said that, there are a couple of things that need to happen, and it's mostly addition by subtraction:
1. Abolish 1LL1NO1S and F1GHT1NG 1LL1N1 everywhere so that it never ever gets considered for use again, anywhere in UIUC athletics. Even replacing it with a semi-generic block font of the same words is a 10,000% improvement. A classic "generic" look is so much better IMO than this try-hard design.
2. Retire the shield, just stick with Block I. TBH I haven't noticed the shield on any unis this year, but just be proactive and cease the use of it everywhere.
I've never been a fan of the "1" instead of an "I" but I think a couple tweaks to the football uniforms is all we need, unless its a major redesign already.

1) Add piping around the numbers on the uniforms, the solid orange numbers on the blue jersey would look much better with a white outline
2) Add stripes back to the pants and maybe the sleeves of the jerseys
3) Use a glossy helmet instead of the matte colors

I'm sure a few other details would help too, including the fonts, but I don't see the font changing anytime soon.
 
#405      
Since we have a bye week, I thought I would pose some "fan survey" questions about Memorial Stadium to pass the time. :cool:

1. What is your preferred endzone look for the Illini? Unfortunately, fellow Chief lovers, this must remain realistic. :cry:
2. In your ideal world, what does the rest of the Memorial Stadium renovation look like? Obvious subjects are the SEZ (Horseshoe), east side in general and maybe even the NEZ (current student section).
3. On that note, where would YOU personally like to see the students go? If you would move them from the NEZ, what would you have happen to the NEZ?
4. Lastly, what is your ideal Illini uniform "norm" for us to wear most seasons?

My personal answers:

1. A script Illinois font in the endzone would be absolutely bada$$ - orange background and blue font with white outline.

2. I think the SEZ endzone renovations, if we can afford it, should exactly match this, with the exterior looking architecturally consistent with the columns outside of both the east and west balconies:
illini_1.jpg

This would REALLY help to trap stadium noise, and it would make the interior of Memorial Stadium look beautiful, IMO. Then, I would like to see EVERY SINGLE SEAT that currently hangs underneath the east balcony overhang removed (with its capacity shifted to the new SEZ structure), and a concourse area added behind it to match the look of the east balcony ... one of the best things about Memorial was the symmetry, and we totally botched that by only renovating the west. The west seats should look like this, with the existing upper deck on top instead of the pressbox on the east:
300px-Memorial_Stadium_Champaign_East_Stands_2013.jpg

Then, do what you want with the NEZ, you could even leave it as is, and make it a family area ... just don't put the students there!

3. On that note, just put the students back where they were in 2006. Some have floated the balcony idea, but personally ... I want the opportunity there for the students to rush the field when the occasion calls for it. Even if you are the most cautious, fun-hating person alive, who could have watched the end of Tennessee/Alabama and not wanted that scene at Memorial some day?!

4. I think our uniforms should be nearly ironclad, set in stone:
Home: O-B-O
Away: O-W-O
vs. NU: Bears setup ALWAYS ... B-B-W at home, B-W-B in Evanston, B-O-W at neutral sites (i.e., Chicago) or for random/special home games

I'm not sure I ever want to see all orange again in my life, and I think all blue - while cool - should be reserved for like a bowl game or POSSIBLY an occasional Mizzou uniform if that rivalry can get back off the ground.
I want to see O-O-W in there somewhere.
 
#406      

ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
I've never been a fan of the "1" instead of an "I" but I think a couple tweaks to the football uniforms is all we need, unless its a major redesign already.

1) Add piping around the numbers on the uniforms, the solid orange numbers on the blue jersey would look much better with a white outline
2) Add stripes back to the pants and maybe the sleeves of the jerseys
3) Use a glossy helmet instead of the matte colors

I'm sure a few other details would help too, including the fonts, but I don't see the font changing anytime soon.
So you're thinking

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I bet we wind up with something more like

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#408      
So you're thinking

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I bet we wind up with something more like

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Hellya! Man, I wouldn’t object. That looks really good. Classic. It pops. Love it. I like the look of the latter one.. with the one exception of the rounded ILLINI helmet letters.
 
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mattcoldagelli

The Transfer Portal
I feel like @ChiefGritty and I liable to turn any thread into a uniform thread, but I feel less bad since someone else started it...

Helmets:
- they are now perfectly average; consistency (both in terms of the I being on straight and us only wearing the orange one) is a significant improvement in and of itself
- I'm still up for something new as a helmet logo, with the '70s script "Illinois" as the clubhouse leader

Uniforms:
- again, consistency helps here...we should be wearing O/B/O at home. I think O/W/O is fine on the road, and wouldn't hate if we brought back O/W/B from time to time (although this wouldn't look good with our current white tops w/ their orange numbers):
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- our number font is so bad. If we changed nothing else on the uniforms but the number font it would be a huge win. You don't even have to go the boring block numeral route, use the HTTO font if you want to be distinctive.

While I'm up on my soapbox, we'd remedy so many issues by just scrapping the Nike rebrand font. It was never a good fit for us and has gotten worse with time as we've continued to tinker with our look. There's a reason basketball has shifted almost entirely to more classic looks - we're an old soul of an athletic brand, stop fighting it and just lean in, please.
 
#411      
Well lots to chew on, great responses. I've spent the last 5 minutes deciding and then changing my mind!

1. The script seems to be the current darling for some here. I like it, but think I'd take 'FIGHTING' in one end zone and 'ILLINI' in the other, in block form. Agree with those who want the '1's gone. And pretty sure I saw the shield in the Ubben video, in the nutrition center. Remove please.
2.
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yes please but not sure we ever raise that kind of cash. Whoever last week posted that Purdue rendering vs. Purdue actual build was spot on.
3. Don't have strong feelings here, I've seen good reasons for several locations. In principle East Main but it's all about the $$$ now and those are prime seats once we are consistently winning.
4. I need some blue in there somewhere. Do not care for the white-and-orange-only Dreamsicle combinations. Sorry @dbeaverfg ;) Something close to what @Pikeillinifan said above.
 
#412      
I'd be surprised if we made any changes to the helmet but we shall see.
Yeah, probably right. I dig the rounded ILLINI letters…but def. have nothing against the Block I either. Option #2 with the current helmet would be pretty solid. IMO
 
#413      
I bet we wind up with something more like

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Honestly, I would support this 100% IF we don't add back ILLINOIS to the helmets and keep the Block I. Not only do I think the Block I looks great on the helmets, but I just can't disassociate ILLINOIS with the unimaginative RG years ... if we want to pay homage to an historical uniform, we have way classier and more unique oldies to bust out. During these interesting and fun uniform conversations, the ILLINOIS is the only thing that I simply will never understand and will never, EVER support. I think it's that awful, lol.

I also do not have strong feelings on the number coloring (white vs. orange vs. blue, depending on the jerseys), but I DO think you need an outline; I'm very open to multiple ideas there. The main thing is that I want us to look "classic" in both sports ... our throwback jerseys in basketball are universally praised in comment sections everywhere on places like social media as some of the coolest in basketball, and our generic basketball jerseys consistently rank as some of the worst in the conference ... it's a no-brainer, and football should follow suit. Our next jerseys for both sports should "establish our look" for a VERY long time. No more late 2000s/early 2010s where we throw the newest font trends at the wall.
 
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UT is fund raising to pay for the cost of replacing the goal posts. And the SEC fined them $100,000 for allowing it to happen.

Okay, I should have been clear ... we don't necessarily need to remove the goalposts. However, the fun police who don't want fans storming the field are very misguided, IMO ... the scene when we beat Wisconsin a few years ago was so much fun, and it would be even better with a full house (I think we only had like 45k there).
 
#415      

ChiefGritty

Chicago, IL
our number font is so bad. If we changed nothing else on the uniforms but the number font it would be a huge win. You don't even have to go the boring block numeral route, use the HTTO font if you want to be distinctive.
I don't think it's that bad and I actually found it quite striking on our previous set

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You'd need to know the backstory for that number style to evoke Nike and Mike Thomas and disrespect for tradition the way that's seared into the brains of us maniacs. It more obviously has the feel of a much more happily remembered slice of Illinois history

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#416      
1. An insanely steep single-tier standing terrace like Borussia Dortmund in Germany
2. The same. Just add backs to the benches.
3. See #1
4. I'll stir the pot on this one: are we sure we want to change our uniforms next season still?
My two cents. I'm good with the stadium changes you propose. Block lettering in end zones to maintain consistency with Block I. Students in East Main.
 
#417      

illini80

Forgottonia
Curious to hear from those who’ve attended most of the home games about the evolution (or lack thereof) of concessions, music, admission to the stadium, tailgating, etc. Of course bigger crowds and an exciting team are a huge part of making it fun, but are we seeing incremental progress in other areas?
 
#418      
Curious to hear from those who’ve attended most of the home games about the evolution (or lack thereof) of concessions, music, admission to the stadium, tailgating, etc. Of course bigger crowds and an exciting team are a huge part of making it fun, but are we seeing incremental progress in other areas?
I have not been able to go to a game, but the scene at Grange Grove has looked a lot better each week, from what I can tell on social media and stuff. I was looking at pictures of the actual, ya know, GROVE at Ole Miss, and I thought to myself ... Grange Grove has a lot of potential, but it seems a bit too utilitarian. I'd be all in favor of planting some trees in there or any other measures to give it more atmosphere.
 
#419      

redwingillini11

White and Sixth
North Aurora
Since we have a bye week, I thought I would pose some "fan survey" questions about Memorial Stadium to pass the time. :cool:

1. What is your preferred endzone look for the Illini? Unfortunately, fellow Chief lovers, this must remain realistic. :cry:
2. In your ideal world, what does the rest of the Memorial Stadium renovation look like? Obvious subjects are the SEZ (Horseshoe), east side in general and maybe even the NEZ (current student section).
3. On that note, where would YOU personally like to see the students go? If you would move them from the NEZ, what would you have happen to the NEZ?
4. Lastly, what is your ideal Illini uniform "norm" for us to wear most seasons?
1. As the proud founder and perhaps only member of #TeamUnderline I'd love a return of the 2001 era underline look (without the blue outline) in the endzone. Understanding that is probably never going to happen, I think block letters maybe make more sense than a script (Fighting on one end and Illini on the other). I just can't picture us using a script full time with the football team. It looks outstanding for basketball though.
2. Same thoughts that have already been shared. That SEZ mock up looks fantastic. Put columns on the outside. Get rid of ESL seats under the balcony and make a proper concourse there. NEZ probably gets converted to a beer garden / patio type set up on where the seats currently are.
3. Students get the north end of the ESL.
4. O-B-O as the primary home look. O-W-B as the primary road look, maybe have O-W-O if it will play better aesthetically with the home team's set. One home game per year gets either a Butkus-throwback, O-O-W, B-B-B, or O-B-B look. Bears' look for the Northwestern game is fine, but I'm not passionate about it. I tend to want to forget I am a Bears fan at that point in the season.
 
#420      
I have not been able to go to a game, but the scene at Grange Grove has looked a lot better each week, from what I can tell on social media and stuff. I was looking at pictures of the actual, ya know, GROVE at Ole Miss, and I thought to myself ... Grange Grove has a lot of potential, but it seems a bit too utilitarian. I'd be all in favor of planting some trees in there or any other measures to give it more atmosphere.
Grange Grove is certainly busier this year than it has been lately. At least part of that has to do with a change in the pregame experience. In the past the food trucks and kids experience (slide, bounce house, face painting, etc) have been on First Street outside the Grove. They have moved all of that inside the fence this year. I suspect you have local families bringing their kids in for that who have no intention of going to the game.
 
#421      
I feel like @ChiefGritty and I liable to turn any thread into a uniform thread, but I feel less bad since someone else started it...

Helmets:
- they are now perfectly average; consistency (both in terms of the I being on straight and us only wearing the orange one) is a significant improvement in and of itself
- I'm still up for something new as a helmet logo, with the '70s script "Illinois" as the clubhouse leader

Uniforms:
- again, consistency helps here...we should be wearing O/B/O at home. I think O/W/O is fine on the road, and wouldn't hate if we brought back O/W/B from time to time (although this wouldn't look good with our current white tops w/ their orange numbers):
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- our number font is so bad. If we changed nothing else on the uniforms but the number font it would be a huge win. You don't even have to go the boring block numeral route, use the HTTO font if you want to be distinctive.

While I'm up on my soapbox, we'd remedy so many issues by just scrapping the Nike rebrand font. It was never a good fit for us and has gotten worse with time as we've continued to tinker with our look. There's a reason basketball has shifted almost entirely to more classic looks - we're an old soul of an athletic brand, stop fighting it and just lean in, please.
How in the world is this not a more frequent topic of discussion on this board, of all places? I'm not even trying to take a side here. I'll confess that I think the font is 100% retro-cool and I love the work that the athletic department is doing on that campaign, though I'm not sure I'd want it on a uniform. But this board has discussed every single facet of the program at length: which gloves high schoolers wore last weekend, walking distances from various parking lots, wireless service in the upper East balcony, how fast they hand out hot dogs on game day, but that unique new font barely gets a mention. Did I miss a conversation along the way?
 

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#422      

Ransom Stoddard

Ordained Dudeist Priest
Bloomington, IL
Curious to hear from those who’ve attended most of the home games about the evolution (or lack thereof) of concessions, music, admission to the stadium, tailgating, etc. Of course bigger crowds and an exciting team are a huge part of making it fun, but are we seeing incremental progress in other areas?
For me it's a mixed bag. The first game had a lot of SNAFUs all the way around, from getting in to the stadium, time getting through concessions, availability of concessions, and the like. They ran out of bottled water at half-time in 85 degree weather, for crying out loud. Much of that has mostly improved from game to game, although concession time is still a problem, and I couldn't find coffee or hot chocolate before the game started last weekend. I love me a 10:30 AM beer, but a coffee would have been even better. ;)

I've only been through Grange Grove once, and that was after the Minny game, but it was still hopping about 45 minutes after the final gun, and some of those folks looked like they were in for the long haul. I've talked to other people who set up their tailgates there and it sounds like things run pretty smoothly and no real problems. Tailgating in general seems very good and I see more and more on my walk down Florida/Kirby toward MS each week.

They play a very broad range of music during the game, which probably leaves everyone with something they like and something they don't. I wish I had the rights for AC/DC's catalog though--I'd guess that every sporting event I've been to since 1984 has had at least 1 AC/DC tune played, and MS uses at least 3 (Hell's Bells, Thunderstruck, and I think FTATR)

I respond to the DIA's survey requests after every game, and give some of the same responses almost every time, so in no particular order (and with the requisite commentary), my criticisms/concerns are:

1. Wait time at concessions. It has improved somewhat, but last week's 11am start seemed to catch everyone off guard. There wasn't enough food ready to go at the BBQ place (literally took 30 minutes from order to pickup), and as mentioned above I was unable to locate a hot beverage in the 1st half. The prices are also a bit on the high side, especially for bottled water (I think I paid $6 each).
2. AT&T cell coverage is very very bad. I haven't tried making a call during a game, but my internet signal is non-existent. This is kind of silly in light of the "Light Show" that they've done at the night games. No coverage, no participation. No coverage, no posting to IL or tweeting my innermost thoughts about Lunney's play-calling.
3. Parking. I'm in lot 46, and it's scary how poorly the parking is coordinated. I know the folks working the lots are volunteers (at least I'm assuming they are), but there should be some reasonable standards of how close they put the rows and where they put tailgaters. I was blocked by cars in front and back last week, although it was a short wait for someone to move so I could get out, harder yet not to run over tailgaters as they'd spread tents out into the main "drives".
4. Traffic control. So far in 5 games I've seen exactly 1 LEO coordinating traffic coming out of any parking lot, or at an intersection that wasn't 4th and Kirby. I know that's more on the individual police departments than the DIA, but there's a legit safety issue there. I guess all the cops prefer to be out in front of the stadium on Kirby in their SWAT gear rather than directing traffic.
5. Crowd control in the portals. The Minny game was the worst, but people congregate in the front of the portals, whether it's watching the game, chatting, checking their phones, etc. and it slows down the ability to get to/from the restrooms and concessions. That would get you a stern rebuke back in the 80s and 90s when Guenther's Fun Police roamed MS making sure no one was out of their section.
6. Much more minor point--I've never thought so, but apparently section numbers and row numbers could be better marked. I witnessed 3 different groups (2 of them Goofers) try to sit in the wrong section on Saturday, and one of them started in the wrong row, and then ultimately found they were in the wrong section.

But to be fair, I've praised the DIA for the following:
1. Reaching out to the fans after every game for feedback. They obviously want to improve and I've seen that improvement in a lot of areas.
2. Improving the stadium entry process. It's been smooth as glass at the SE entrance for me.
3. Adding water containers outside the stadium for water bottle refills. Unfortunately that only seemed to be for a game or 2 when it was warmer.
4. Player introductions and the way the team comes onto the field. It was very, very cool at the night games and still great in the daylight.
5. Stadium cleanliness. It's something you don't even notice unless you think about it. The restrooms are clean, garbage cans get emptied, spills get cleaned up in the concourses and on the ramps. It wasn't always this way, especially the restrooms.
6. Entertainment/videos during timeouts. This is stuff no one sees who only watch the games on TV. Sometimes it's intros of VIPs/honorees, sometimes it's the obligatory crowd shots, sometimes it's the drum line. Given how many and how long the timeouts/commercials are these days, it's good that there's an attempt to keep the crowd engaged.
7. Gene Honda. A freaking treasure.

How in the world is this not a more frequent topic of discussion on this board, of all places? I'm not even trying to take a side here. I'll confess that I think the font is 100% retro-cool and I love the work that the athletic department is doing on that campaign, though I'm not sure I'd want it on a uniform. But this board has discussed every single facet of the program at length: which gloves high schoolers wore last weekend, walking distances from various parking lots, wireless service in the upper East balcony, how fast they hand out hot dogs on game day, but that unique new font barely gets a mention. Did I miss a conversation along the way?
There was a fair bit of discussion in a thread a few weeks back. My recollection was that the font wasn't well received, but personally I like it. Like you, I don't want it on a uniform, but it stands out on marketing stuff.
 
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I have not been able to go to a game, but the scene at Grange Grove has looked a lot better each week, from what I can tell on social media and stuff. I was looking at pictures of the actual, ya know, GROVE at Ole Miss, and I thought to myself ... Grange Grove has a lot of potential, but it seems a bit too utilitarian. I'd be all in favor of planting some trees in there or any other measures to give it more atmosphere.
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A couple of drawings from the Campus Landscape Master Plan. Looks like the idea is to surround Grange Grove with trees but leave it basically open. The stadium terrace (as the plan calls it) on the west side of 1st street will have quite a few trees planted but still used for parking and tailgating. The tree avenue in that area leading to the stadium is pretty darn cool also.
 
#424      
I posted this in another thread, but it is really frustrating we have never thrown together a temporary seating structure to bring the Horseshoe seats down to field level. It's crazy how much more complete, architecturally consistent and imposing this older photo of the SEZ looks compared to what we have now, simply because there are some temporary seats to make it look bigger:

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The Horseshoe looks so much more disjointed and puny compared to the rest of the stadium as it currently stands. I know this is like my weird hill to die on, but it would have been SO EASY to touch up over the last several decades, while there have been no actionable plans to renovate the whole SEZ.
 
#425      
I posted this in another thread, but it is really frustrating we have never thrown together a temporary seating structure to bring the Horseshoe seats down to field level. It's crazy how much more complete, architecturally consistent and imposing this older photo of the SEZ looks compared to what we have now, simply because there are some temporary seats to make it look bigger:

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The Horseshoe looks so much more disjointed and puny compared to the rest of the stadium as it currently stands. I know this is like my weird hill to die on, but it would have been SO EASY to touch up over the last several decades, while there have been no actionable plans to renovate the whole SEZ.
I thought someone on this forum mentioned that that spacing was left empty for a purpose. But I don't remember.
 
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