Captain 14
- The Last Best Place
No wonder the refs are confused
Michigan 19, Illinois 17 Postgame
The refs were told a pick play was coming well before the play happened…..
Like WE told them “hey be ready to throw the flag, they’re gonna try a pick play at some point”?
Or MICH said “hey we’re gonna do an illegal pick play if we get in a tough spot and need a few yards, don’t call it”?
Because if it’s the former, damn these officials suck. If it’s the latter, that’s a whole different can of worms that I was hoping wasn’t completely true.
Unconscious biases or intense pressure leading to missed calls I expect, but full on corruption to manipulate the fairness of the game is something I only complained about but never thought was true.
redwingillini11
White and Sixth
- North Aurora
If so, I hope Josh Whitman is going hard after the league office. I understand Coach's frustration and the fact that he's saying what's the point. But if we do nothing still nothing will happen. The next step is Whitman walking into the office / meetings and demanding enough is enough. I'm sure there are other programs that are just as disgruntled.
Roughly 12 of 14.
The former. We gave them a heads up before the play. The officials know tendencies too. They watch film of the teams they are officiating.Like WE told them “hey be ready to throw the flag, they’re gonna try a pick play at some point”?
Or MICH said “hey we’re gonna do an illegal pick play if we get in a tough spot and need a few yards, don’t call it”?
Because if it’s the former, damn these officials suck. If it’s the latter, that’s a whole different can of worms that I was hoping wasn’t completely true.
Unconscious biases or intense pressure leading to missed calls I expect, but full on corruption to manipulate the fairness of the game is something I only complained about but never thought was true.
Good to know. Just shows our coaching staff is fully engaged and on top of what is happening on the field.
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
Question then is WHY wasn't a flag thrown ???
Retro62
- North Bethesda, Maryland
And mess up the UM and OSU showdown? Can’t let that happen!
And there is your proof of the league full on determining outcomes. There is no other explanation that I will accept. It's been a known issue forever, and it will ultimately be the downfall of the league if it is not addressed. Why watch the games if the outcome is already determined? Just another WWE Raw every Saturday (basketball at times as well).
That’s where I stand, with zero interest in watching or supporting predetermined “competition”. I’d rather spend my fall Saturday’s cycling and will if they don’t clean it up.
We were thinking about season tickets. I even marked my 2023 planner to get right on it in February, but need to reconsider after last Saturday. Maybe a couple of single games and drop it altogether if we see another rigged game. Disgusting stuff.
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
Yes I can , and I expect a fairly contested game with the winner EARNING THE VICTORY instead of officials and B$G officials determining the outcome...
how about the overweight commissioner and all the other parties involved in the fix go suit up and go on the field and play the game themselves....
What has this country devolved into ?????......Where games are fixed and all the hard work a team has put in to pull an upset , being denied because the playoff purse would be less.........Sounds like a society of selling their soul for the almighty $$$$$$............
I understand corruption in government and the whole political system , with election deniers and insurrectionists trying to overthrow our democracy ....They did it right in front of everybody , but why has it made it's way into the sports realm ???.....Oh wait , it's been there all along but now it's accelerated to the next level of telling us not to believe what we see or read.......
HMMM , where have I heard this before ????????....................This country has lost it's innocence and now is full of whoever yells loudest or lies the most is the section of society that prosper's the most................
I say scrap the playoff as it exists and come up with a more equal system that's fair for all and not rigged for the rotten blue bloods.........
JMHO.................
Then why play the games?
I was listening J. Lehman talk about the Mi game. He was spot on with his analysis of the game. We know OPI and DPI are subjective in the eyes of the ref. Holding on an OL is also a quick response by the ref. Do the refs sit there and think each play is this the one I cheat on. Probably not. The pick play was so obvious that a non football player would know that it was a pick. They call it all the time if it is over the middle. Loveland the MI TE made no nada zilch attempt to look like he was going out for a pass. Oh well the game is over. On to NW. I want KY in Nashville for the bowl game. I want to say that this team has come so far in one year. Go ILLINI>
truly amazingWell that’s good to know…lesser of two evils I suppose.
Not trying to be obstinate here and I really don't know because Hulu stopped replaying the game right after our first FG, but did he stand up before securing the ball, or did he secure the ball with his knee still down? If he did the latter, isn't he down?
I just watched this also and had the exact same reaction. He blabbed ad nauseam about his player who transferred from Virginia and their loss, but not one word about BB's mother. Talk about having two hands tied behind you back. He didn't mention Illinois or one person from Illinois. He talked about his players having the physical strength of10 men and the mental strength or 10 men. What does that even mean? I'm sorry, but if someone takes you to the last minute at your house, you at least acknowledge that. (See the UVA BB coach after our game). I have no doubt that it's attitudes like this throughout the Fishigan staff that directly impacted the tunnel incident.
Ball hit the ground before he secured it- pretty obvious incomplete pass
The picture shows his hand touching the ball while his knee is on the ground. But it both real time, and in slo-mo, he never had re-possession of the ball until his knee was off the ground. It's just a well-timed photo that's been used to support a narrative. There is still plenty to be pissed about the game last week, but that one thing is not.
ChazzReinhold
Mom! The Meatloaf!
If possession was ultimately achieved, wouldn’t then the initial point of contact with the ball be the genesis of that possession.